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re: United States of F#ck Yeah v. Atleti's kit sponsor | Tues., 9 p.m. CDT (ESPN2)
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:45 am to Broski
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:45 am to Broski
Finished up the game recently. Overall meh.
Howard did a good job standing there I guess. I think the wind took some of his long balls a little off course. He should have been given a lawn chair though.
Defenders:
Besler was a lot less reliable than I hoped. He had a near disaster of a giveaway.
DMB was not so hot, but I do not know if his play will work against superior opponents. He is a decent WCQ guy. I think Fabian-Chandler-Besler-Cameron should be our back four in some order.
I still think Yedlin is a tourist for Brazil. Ronaldo and Reus probably have been masturbating to his call-up because he is not ready to even try to defend those guys.
Midfielders:
Jones slipped and almost fricked up once, but he was really disciplined tonight. He showed that he could work with Bradley. I think the wind may have helped him because he did not attempt any wild 50 yard in the air through balls.
Bradley was off. It happens, but it cannot happen in this diamond. Our star players having a bad day should not result in panic mode during a spell of bad form.
Mix was titty skin. Thenry was right. I think I might want this dude in the 11. He was not afraid to shoot, he is creative as frick, and his hair is great. I know he only had a brief appearance, but he played pretty much perfectly. The mop-up goal was a nice bonus.
Davis had a couple nice moments, but I only want him on the pitch if the substitution rules are like hockey or basketball. I was pissed when he did not let it rip with his right foot. Somewhere, Arjen Robben was smiling at that.
Forwards:
I loved Jozy outside the 18. I liked Wondo's movement in the 18. Jozy maintained possession, but Wondo lost it, yet Wondo kept poking through holes in the defense. There should be a way to combine these two players to create our starting striker. Plus, it would open up a much needed roster.
Other notes:
Despite Azerbaijan staying behind the ball, they were absolute arse at defending set pieces, but that does not take away from our service, which was pretty good. The Johannsson goal was so bad in terms of defense that I did not get excited. Pepe would literally cut the throats of his teammates if they defended like that at the World Cup.
I think the most valuable thing out of this friendly is that we know the diamond should not be used, despite the Jones staying back and playing his role. Let's go back to the 4-2-3-1 because this team will get exposed unless Bradley is Lex Luthor or better.
I still do not really see where the goals will come from (yes, I know Dempsey was not that there, but he tends to be invisible most of the game for the US). Zusi better swing in a frick ton of free kicks for us to have a chance.
Hopeful lineup against Turkey (without the LegenD
):
Howard
Frankenstein(RB)-Cameron-Besler-Fabian(LB)
Bradley-Jones
Zusi-Mix-Demspey
Jozy
Howard did a good job standing there I guess. I think the wind took some of his long balls a little off course. He should have been given a lawn chair though.
Defenders:
Besler was a lot less reliable than I hoped. He had a near disaster of a giveaway.
DMB was not so hot, but I do not know if his play will work against superior opponents. He is a decent WCQ guy. I think Fabian-Chandler-Besler-Cameron should be our back four in some order.
I still think Yedlin is a tourist for Brazil. Ronaldo and Reus probably have been masturbating to his call-up because he is not ready to even try to defend those guys.
Midfielders:
Jones slipped and almost fricked up once, but he was really disciplined tonight. He showed that he could work with Bradley. I think the wind may have helped him because he did not attempt any wild 50 yard in the air through balls.
Bradley was off. It happens, but it cannot happen in this diamond. Our star players having a bad day should not result in panic mode during a spell of bad form.
Mix was titty skin. Thenry was right. I think I might want this dude in the 11. He was not afraid to shoot, he is creative as frick, and his hair is great. I know he only had a brief appearance, but he played pretty much perfectly. The mop-up goal was a nice bonus.
Davis had a couple nice moments, but I only want him on the pitch if the substitution rules are like hockey or basketball. I was pissed when he did not let it rip with his right foot. Somewhere, Arjen Robben was smiling at that.
Forwards:
I loved Jozy outside the 18. I liked Wondo's movement in the 18. Jozy maintained possession, but Wondo lost it, yet Wondo kept poking through holes in the defense. There should be a way to combine these two players to create our starting striker. Plus, it would open up a much needed roster.
Other notes:
Despite Azerbaijan staying behind the ball, they were absolute arse at defending set pieces, but that does not take away from our service, which was pretty good. The Johannsson goal was so bad in terms of defense that I did not get excited. Pepe would literally cut the throats of his teammates if they defended like that at the World Cup.
I think the most valuable thing out of this friendly is that we know the diamond should not be used, despite the Jones staying back and playing his role. Let's go back to the 4-2-3-1 because this team will get exposed unless Bradley is Lex Luthor or better.
I still do not really see where the goals will come from (yes, I know Dempsey was not that there, but he tends to be invisible most of the game for the US). Zusi better swing in a frick ton of free kicks for us to have a chance.
Hopeful lineup against Turkey (without the LegenD
): Howard
Frankenstein(RB)-Cameron-Besler-Fabian(LB)
Bradley-Jones
Zusi-Mix-Demspey
Jozy
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:46 am to Bho
quote:
People say these things because they hear others say it......true or not.
It scares me when I hear it from Bastian and Philipp Lahm.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 12:47 am
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:56 am to Bho
quote:
People say these things because they hear others say it......true or not.
Jurgen has never been tactically strong. I've realized that well before he was coaching the US.
ETA: How ironic is it that uway and Bho are acting as if the "Jurgen is not tactically sound" is merely a meme but they both swear by the whole "Landon is out of shape" theory?
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 12:59 am
Posted on 5/28/14 at 1:09 am to Broski
I dont expect us to play that 4-4-2 in the world cup at all, but it did point out how much less of a defensive liability Davis is than Donovan
Posted on 5/28/14 at 1:15 am to sgallo3
quote:
but it did point out how much less of a defensive liability Davis is than Donovan
Davis can surely track down Nani or Ronaldo with his pace.
In terms of the World Cup stage, Davis has the quality of a specialist. I would be scared to see him get him getting serious minutes.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 1:45 am to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:
Davis can surely track down Nani or Ronaldo with his pace
it isn't the job of a wide mid to track down wingers
do u really expect portugal to run a 4-2-4 vs us?
Posted on 5/28/14 at 6:28 am to Broski
quote:
ETA: How ironic is it that uway and Bho are acting as if the "Jurgen is not tactically sound" is merely a meme but they both swear by the whole "Landon is out of shape" theory?
That's not a theory. It was a belief based on his own words and how he played against Mexico and in the one Galaxy match I saw.
quote:
Jurgen has never been tactically strong. I've realized that well before he was coaching the US.
At what point did you "realize" that?
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 6:29 am
Posted on 5/28/14 at 7:22 am to uway
I really think Jurgen is pushing some of this diamond right now so that we can switch to it during games, as needed.
For instance, if we are down a goal in the last 15 minutes, he may want a more offensive formation. Or if he feels a game is opening up some and wants a more dedicated CDM and CAM rather than relying upon their communication. I could be wrong, as we all know Jurgen doesn't use tactics. Just yoga and belief.
The players on the field would essentially be the same for a 4-2-3-1 as compared to the diamond that he was going to start last night. So the ability to switch at desired times may be nice.
For instance, if we are down a goal in the last 15 minutes, he may want a more offensive formation. Or if he feels a game is opening up some and wants a more dedicated CDM and CAM rather than relying upon their communication. I could be wrong, as we all know Jurgen doesn't use tactics. Just yoga and belief.
The players on the field would essentially be the same for a 4-2-3-1 as compared to the diamond that he was going to start last night. So the ability to switch at desired times may be nice.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 7:46 am to uway
quote:
It was a belief based on his own words and how he played against Mexico and in the one Galaxy match I saw.
you being serious?
"i'm forming my opinion partly from what landon said but also from a very small sample size a considerable time ago"
i thought you were getting sick of arguing this. you're an idiot. it's been established. move on.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 8:12 am to PTBob
quote:
"i'm forming my opinion partly from what landon said but also from a very small sample size a considerable time ago"
struggling to get in shape
badly out of shape
Posted on 5/28/14 at 9:12 am to uway
first link isn't working second link is a joke. it sites the mexico (almost 2 months ago man, 2 months) game which you already sited. he didn't appear out of shape against the union a couple nights ago, which was one god damn day after the camp. i'm not talking about his assist and goals that night i'm talking about pure physical shape and running.
just stop. please stop with the out of shape shite. it's just not true.
just stop. please stop with the out of shape shite. it's just not true.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 9:13 am
Posted on 5/28/14 at 9:20 am to PTBob
quote:
please stop with the out of shape shite.
I'm not saying he's out of shape. I thought he was prior to the news that he aced the beep test, just like most everyone else thought it when he showed up fat to the Mexico friendly.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 9:25 am to uway
so why continue to site articles when you KNOW the facts are otherwise?
actually, this shite doesn't belong in this thread. frick it.
I was not impressed with our team's play last night and was really hoping to see Julian Green so I could form a better opinion on him. I'm thinking Jurgen gave JJ the entire game and hopefully will give Beckerdreads the next game. This WAS our first tune up game though so I'm not putting a ton into it. Would've liked to see a little bit better of game though. Effort was there.
actually, this shite doesn't belong in this thread. frick it.
I was not impressed with our team's play last night and was really hoping to see Julian Green so I could form a better opinion on him. I'm thinking Jurgen gave JJ the entire game and hopefully will give Beckerdreads the next game. This WAS our first tune up game though so I'm not putting a ton into it. Would've liked to see a little bit better of game though. Effort was there.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 9:42 am to PTBob
In the 4-4-2 diamond, is it any one player's job in particular to pick up the ball from the defenders and bring it upfield to the attack?
When we play the 4-2-3-1, it seems like that's mostly Bradley's job, and he is always available to do it.
He seemed less available last night, but maybe I just saw that wrong.
When we play the 4-2-3-1, it seems like that's mostly Bradley's job, and he is always available to do it.
He seemed less available last night, but maybe I just saw that wrong.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 10:22 am to uway
quote:
In the 4-4-2 diamond, is it any one player's job in particular to pick up the ball from the defenders and bring it upfield to the attack?
It should be, but the DM can't move too far upfield or else will be out of position, and if the opposition does even the most cursory marking, you will have some sort of unbalance moving the ball upfield.
I'd rather we play a 4-4-2 where Bradley starts a lot deeper than a diamond where Bradley can easily be marked out of the game.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 10:34 am to crazy4lsu
quote:
I'd rather we play a 4-4-2 where Bradley starts a lot deeper than a diamond where Bradley can easily be marked out of the game.
If Bradley passes like he normally does, him being the attacking mid means he sets up a lot of shot opportunities. The problem last night was that Bradley was really struggling with his touch on passing.
We did have some issues passing from the back line but I didn't see that as the fault of the mids. For the most part, USA just weren't getting the pace on their passes correct.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 10:49 am to SouthOfSouth
Just watched the game. All the hate that Wondolowski received in this thread is just pure silliness. I'm quite sure those posters were ones that have always hated him. Second header was quite good and was stopped with a good save.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 10:58 am to SouthOfSouth
quote:
The problem last night was that Bradley was really struggling with his touch on passing.
That wasn't the only problem. As crazy noted, he was also having trouble finding space when AZ was settled behind the ball having to drop even with Jermaine Jones fairly frequently to find it.
If training was as hard as it was supposed to be, I'll attribute their lack of sharpness to that. A lot of players looked really tired at some point tonight. I thought that Jermaine Jones was going to fall over at any given moment from 80'+.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:05 am to joey barton
I fully expect Bradley to not have to pass into a wall at the World Cup, but they will be bringing a lot more pressure on the team. Azerbaijan is just so different that it is hard to tell a ton for this game. This was like a home WCQ match.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:14 am to Vicks Kennel Club
Yeah, I was surprised to see people elsewhere freaking out about this...though I probably shouldn't be
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