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re: UEFA Club Ranking (Actual)
Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:45 pm to RandySavage
Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:45 pm to RandySavage
In other pertinent news, Real Madrid has dropped out of Pot 1 for the upcoming CL drawing.
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:50 pm to Dandy Lion
So has Arsenal. There are going to be multiple Groups of Death.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 3:23 pm to RandySavage
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You think City should just get to vault ahead to Pot 1 just because they spent a lot of money despite have zero European pedigree?
I think they pots should be based on "what have you done recently?", not lets take into account Chelsea or United winning the UCL 4-5 years ago.
Should Spain/Germany be a seeded team in the next World Cup just because they've won tournaments in the last few years? Nope.
United have won the most BPL titles, that doesn't mean they should get a three point head start in front of everyone at the beginning of the year after a shiit year.
No team, IMO, deserves an advantage based on anything that's happened five years ago. It should all be based on where they finished the previous year.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 3:37 pm to McCaigBro69
Just pull them all out at random, no pots.
Barca, RM, Man City, and Bayern Munich get out in the same group? So be it.
Barca, RM, Man City, and Bayern Munich get out in the same group? So be it.
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 5/21/15 at 5:58 pm to McCaigBro69
Wouldn't change anything for City you suck in Europe every year.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:29 pm to McCaigBro69
quote:
I think they pots should be based on "what have you done recently?", not lets take into account Chelsea or United winning the UCL 4-5 years ago.
that is recently
City since the take over has never got passed the round of 16. Crashed out their group multiple times and before that shite the bed in Europa.
City has never won their group and has not done anything to deserve being a top seed.
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United have won the most BPL titles, that doesn't mean they should get a three point head start in front of everyone at the beginning of the year after a shiit year.
Using United is an awful example
since City's take over dropping a billion pounds
United has won Europe,made two more finals and failed to get out the group just once.
Made it to the last 8 just last season to Bayern, and the year before lost in the last 16 to Madrid.
So stop your bitching
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 5/21/15 at 8:39 pm to McCaigBro69
https://www.euroclubindex.com/
This a club ranking system that takes into account some of the 5 year EL/CL results UEFA uses but also weighs recent performance in domestic leagues and their relative strengths.
Like an computer formula it has its issues but it does eliminate the odd outliers that are based on great or horrible results a club may have had 4 or 5 years ago.
This a club ranking system that takes into account some of the 5 year EL/CL results UEFA uses but also weighs recent performance in domestic leagues and their relative strengths.
Like an computer formula it has its issues but it does eliminate the odd outliers that are based on great or horrible results a club may have had 4 or 5 years ago.
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:49 pm to wm72
Rank Last Club Nation Index
1 FC Barcelona Spain 4536 (0)
2 Real Madrid Spain 4332 (0)
3 Bayern München Germany 3949 (0)
4 Atlético Madrid Spain 3906 (0)
5 Juventus Italy 3732 (-13)
6 Chelsea England 3683 (0)
7 Paris Saint-Germain France 3616 (0)
8 [9] (+1) Manchester City England 3497 (0)
9 [10] (+1) Sevilla FC Spain 3490 (0)
10 [8] (-2) Arsenal England 3486 (-25)
11 Valencia CF Spain 3388 (0)
12 Manchester United England 3300 (0)
13 FC Porto Portugal 3244 (0)
14 Benfica Portugal 3236 (0)
15 Bayer Leverkusen Germany 3224 (0)
16 VfL Wolfsburg Germany 3214 (0)
17 Borussia Dortmund Germany 3164 (0)
18 Borussia Mönchengladbach Germany 3137 (0)
19 Zenit St. Petersburg Russia 3105 (0)
20 Liverpool England 3103 (0)
21 Napoli Italy 3083 (0)
22 AS Roma Italy 3046 (0)
23 Shakhtar Donetsk Ukraine 2984 (0)
24 Villarreal CF Spain 2984 (0)
25 Schalke 04 Germany 2972 (0)
26 Athletic Club Spain 2970 (0)
27 Tottenham Hotspur England 2970 (0)
28 AS Monaco France 2938 (0)
29 Fiorentina Italy 2937 (0)
30 Lazio Italy 2937 (+13)
31 CSKA Moskva Russia 2917 (0)
32 Olympique Lyon France 2903 (0)
33 Everton England 2874 (0)
34 Viktoria Plzen Czech Republic 2854 (0)
35 Dynamo Kyiv Ukraine 2846 (0)
36 [38] (+2) Sporting CP Portugal 2819 (0)
37 [36] (-1) FC Basel Switzerland 2819 (-24)
38 [37] (-1) Fenerbahçe Turkey 2798 (-24)
39 Real Sociedad Spain 2788 (0)
40 Sparta Praha Czech Republic 2770 (0)
41 FK Krasnodar Russia 2765 (0)
42 Dinamo Moskva Russia 2765 (0)
43 Internazionale Italy 2764 (0)
44 Olympiacos Greece 2760 (0)
45 Ajax Netherlands 2749 (0)
46 Saint-Etienne France 2739 (0)
47 [48] (+1) AC Milan Italy 2720 (0)
48 [49] (+1) PSV Netherlands 2709 (0)
49 [47] (-2) Galatasaray Turkey 2709 (-20)
50 Málaga CF Spain 2682 (0)
1 FC Barcelona Spain 4536 (0)
2 Real Madrid Spain 4332 (0)
3 Bayern München Germany 3949 (0)
4 Atlético Madrid Spain 3906 (0)
5 Juventus Italy 3732 (-13)
6 Chelsea England 3683 (0)
7 Paris Saint-Germain France 3616 (0)
8 [9] (+1) Manchester City England 3497 (0)
9 [10] (+1) Sevilla FC Spain 3490 (0)
10 [8] (-2) Arsenal England 3486 (-25)
11 Valencia CF Spain 3388 (0)
12 Manchester United England 3300 (0)
13 FC Porto Portugal 3244 (0)
14 Benfica Portugal 3236 (0)
15 Bayer Leverkusen Germany 3224 (0)
16 VfL Wolfsburg Germany 3214 (0)
17 Borussia Dortmund Germany 3164 (0)
18 Borussia Mönchengladbach Germany 3137 (0)
19 Zenit St. Petersburg Russia 3105 (0)
20 Liverpool England 3103 (0)
21 Napoli Italy 3083 (0)
22 AS Roma Italy 3046 (0)
23 Shakhtar Donetsk Ukraine 2984 (0)
24 Villarreal CF Spain 2984 (0)
25 Schalke 04 Germany 2972 (0)
26 Athletic Club Spain 2970 (0)
27 Tottenham Hotspur England 2970 (0)
28 AS Monaco France 2938 (0)
29 Fiorentina Italy 2937 (0)
30 Lazio Italy 2937 (+13)
31 CSKA Moskva Russia 2917 (0)
32 Olympique Lyon France 2903 (0)
33 Everton England 2874 (0)
34 Viktoria Plzen Czech Republic 2854 (0)
35 Dynamo Kyiv Ukraine 2846 (0)
36 [38] (+2) Sporting CP Portugal 2819 (0)
37 [36] (-1) FC Basel Switzerland 2819 (-24)
38 [37] (-1) Fenerbahçe Turkey 2798 (-24)
39 Real Sociedad Spain 2788 (0)
40 Sparta Praha Czech Republic 2770 (0)
41 FK Krasnodar Russia 2765 (0)
42 Dinamo Moskva Russia 2765 (0)
43 Internazionale Italy 2764 (0)
44 Olympiacos Greece 2760 (0)
45 Ajax Netherlands 2749 (0)
46 Saint-Etienne France 2739 (0)
47 [48] (+1) AC Milan Italy 2720 (0)
48 [49] (+1) PSV Netherlands 2709 (0)
49 [47] (-2) Galatasaray Turkey 2709 (-20)
50 Málaga CF Spain 2682 (0)
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:53 am to Dandy Lion
European Club Index Top 50, tallied by league/country:
Spain 9
England 7
Italy 7
Germany 6
France 4
Russia 4
Portugal 3
Czech Republic 2
Netherlands 2
Turkey 2
Ukraine 2
Greece 1
Switzerland 1
Spain 9
England 7
Italy 7
Germany 6
France 4
Russia 4
Portugal 3
Czech Republic 2
Netherlands 2
Turkey 2
Ukraine 2
Greece 1
Switzerland 1
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 11:12 am
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:07 am to McCaigBro69
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This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:26 pm to GeauxTigers2020
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Chelsea won the Champions League 3 years ago and reached the semifinals last season. Went just as far as City this season.
That title seems so long ago but you're right. BTW, that was one of the most exciting games I've ever watched. I about went nuts when Drogba scored on that header.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:34 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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City has never won their group and has not done anything to deserve being a top seed.
I disagree with this, winning the most competitive league in the world twice in the last three years should make you deserving of being in pot one.
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United has won Europe,made two more finals and failed to get out the group just once.
They have made on final in the last five years. Quit living in the last decade. City have at least qualified directly for the tourny, unlike United who missed a year totally and are going to have to play in the playoff to even get in for next year.
I'm not making excuses for City, because they have had their chances and dicked it up, but winning the league should be rewarding when it comes to the UCL. It shouldn't be something that only directly effects being able to play in it.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 3:49 pm to McCaigBro69
City has done nothing to warrant getting a top seed
Their performance in the competition speaks for it's self.
United in the last three years at least made it to the last 8 and have won their group.
Their performance in the competition speaks for it's self.
United in the last three years at least made it to the last 8 and have won their group.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 3:58 pm to Dandy Lion
Paris will be top five within 2 years
Posted on 5/22/15 at 4:56 pm to McCaigBro69
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the most competitive league in the world
you limey fanboys are fond of saying this. who feeds this shite to you? reddit?
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 4:57 pm
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