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re: Tottenham Hotspur 2022/23 Season Long Thread: No Europe = Burn It All Down

Posted on 3/18/23 at 11:17 am to
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
12913 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 11:17 am to
CAN WE PLEASE SEE DANJUMA?!
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
13555 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 11:55 am to
Spurs are such shite. Frustrating as hell to follow. Just giving away 2 points.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
12889 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 11:58 am to
Watching on my phone, was there contact? Couldn't have been much if so.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
13555 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 12:00 pm to
I thought it was a penalty. Even if a weak call, the team just refuses to make things easy. They are weak minded.
Posted by MattyV
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
2543 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:46 am to
Might be the unpopular opinion, but I’m glad Conte let it all out. The lack of ambition for Spurs starts all the way at the top and works its way down to the players. I don’t think Conte really thinks the players are lazy, but I don’t think he can publicly say that they aren’t good enough to play for a team with ambition of winning trophies so this is his attempt to say it in a different way. I think most of these guys love Spurs and want to succeed, but they aren’t up to the task. We keep changing managers and every time the players get a pass. Our defensive issues started long before Mourinho and Conte showed up and the club have brought one CB in that is truly capable of improving the side. That’s roughly 4 years of doing nearly nothing to improve the biggest weakness in our side. Competition gets the best out of players(look at Emerson as soon as Porro showed up) and our ownership just isn’t willing to do what it takes to provide that in the squad. The lack of competition played a huge role in the decline at the end of the Poch era. I appreciate what they have done in their time at Spurs, but Dier, Sanchez, Davies, Tanganga, Lenglet are not even close to top players at their position. Dier has started CB nearly every game this season and I really struggle on if he would even make the bench for the rest of the “big 6” clubs. Same can be said for everyone other than Romero.

So here we are again. Levy will eventually sack Conte or he will leave at the end of the season. Levy will issue another press release about the style of spurs football and the financial backing they have provided and we will hire another manager expected to succeed with this group of players…rinse…repeat.

Sucks being so negative, but it’s time these players start taking some of the criticism and I think that is the point Conte was trying to get across.

P.S. My apologies in advance to BlackCoffeeKid for the Davies slander
Posted by ShrevetownTiger
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2007
3498 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 12:26 pm to
I think everyone is frustrated at this point. No need to apologize, except the apology to BCK that is lol.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
13251 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 1:15 pm to
...and to think Spurs thought they were going to join the super league. You won't even be playing in the CL next year. Kane will want to leave but won't find suitors in England so a sale to Spain, Germany or Italy will be done for cheaper.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9503 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 7:57 pm to
Conte wasn't wrong
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
12889 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:16 am to
Honestly that was really well said. I'm curious what happens with all the on loan players once Conte gets sacked.
Part of me wants to say blow it up, and part of me wants to see Winks pulling strings in the midfield (/s).

quote:

My apologies in advance to BlackCoffeeKid for the Davies slander

You're goddamn right to apologize.

Posted by MattyV
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
2543 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:08 pm to
I doubt it happens, but Nagelsmann makes a ton of sense. Brilliant young manager who plays attacking football and has proven success working with different levels of teams and structures. Played a back 3 at Leipzig and is capable of switching things up to 4 at the back when needed. Would be a move in the right direction in the bring him in.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
172318 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:28 pm to
Conte officially out
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Not Phillytiger9
Member since Dec 2015
11855 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:44 pm to
Gotta be Nagelsmann or Pochettino 2.0
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
12889 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:50 pm to
Stelliniball is the way, the truth, and the life.

Also, Spurs haven't had a manager in place for an entire season since around 2018.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
12913 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:05 pm to
It was just a matter of time. Gutted.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Not Phillytiger9
Member since Dec 2015
11855 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:10 pm to
Also I don’t buy that Harry stays

ManU’s $100 million offer looks pretty damn good considering the alternative is a free transfer
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
13555 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:18 pm to
Was inevitable given everything that went down.

Posted by Special K
Member since Jun 2011
1167 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 11:40 pm to
The “win now” manager idea has failed with mourinho and Conte. I’m ready for us to get a guy in and give him a couple years at least. Obviously would love Nagelsmann but I’m not getting my hopes up. I just want to enjoy watching them play each week again

And on Kane, he will only leave for a PL team. He wants the record. If he wants to leave and a team is offering a fair price we should cash in and start the new project as much as it would suck to lose him.
Posted by FGCU Gator
DC
Member since Oct 2008
2869 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 6:57 am to
Well, USMNT and Tottenham without a manager, my notifications are going to be a pain moving forward.

Appreciate Conte for what he did, and I even agree that the mentality of the club is spot on, in some aspects.

Poch got it right years ago, we need a rebuild. And sadly I think that starts with Kane. I'd love for him to stay, break the record with us, but we're not close to any trophies. He could have left a few times, but stayed and pushed on. Commendable. Sell him and let him go get silverware somewhere so his legacy isn't just as a great goal scorer on an average team. Let him pay the club back by getting a transfer fee out of him before he walks for free next summer. Help the club on his way out. He'll always be Tottenham, I wouldn't look at him in a negative light in the Prem cause we know he won't act a jackass against us.

Defense needs an overhaul. Dier/Clement/Davies are squad material, not your relied upon starters. Need someone to come in that will balance the good pieces we have (Cuti, Kulu, Son kind of, Hojberg) and get recruitment right with bringing in high caliber defenders we havent had since Toby/Jan in their prime. We've had too many misses on the market when we do actually spend money (Ndombele, Lo Celso).

More, but I'm sure I'm rambling. Just a bummer of a time. Hopefully can salvage CL or even Europa for some cash flow. Levy out, but we know that won't happen.

Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
12913 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 6:58 am to
Weird when you look back at the Chelsea match when Tuchel and Conte had that fiery exchange, and now both managers aren’t there anymore.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21924 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:12 pm to
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Dier, Sanchez, Davies, Tanganga, Lenglet




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