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re: tOfficial Liverpool 2017/2018 Thread: “Upgrades Incoming Edition: A Great Season!”

Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:07 am to
Posted by Girth Donor
Member since Apr 2011
4270 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:07 am to
I said the transfer window was a failure because we didn't fix the main issue. I don't care how good you are going forward if your Defense gives up cheap goals you will have no trophies being added to the case. It really is mind boggling how the defense keeps getting ignored. Oh well, we'll be involved in some crazy arse games.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38811 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:51 am to
Plus, yesterday Sevilla had 3 shots on goal. That tells me that, overall, our defensive organization wasn't that bad.

Its the individual derp mistakes that netted 2 of those 3 shots that killed us yesterday and kill us every time.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23572 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:54 am to
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Hopefully Ox can eventually take hendersons place.


That won't happen... Klopp's already said he can play the two #8s or wing positions... Hendo plays the #6... Ox aint playing there...

I like Hendo and defend him, but I'd be okay with him going into the squad rotation... and us adding a real holding mid.. He def isn't undroppable.. In our current squad, the only player that benches him is Can...
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23572 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Its the individual derp mistakes that netted 2 of those 3 shots that killed us yesterday and kill us every time.


Not defending him, cause he sucks... but Lovren's first frick up was just a one off whiff.. it happens. Defensively he was in position to make an easy clearance... but it is just another in a long line of fricks ups from him... He has to go.. But he's on a new deal at 100k/wk... So, we're stuck with him... he just needs to be 4th/5th choice...

We need a minimum of two CBs... Hopefully, VVD... and someone to challenge Matip for that other spot...
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23572 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

I <3 Bobby Firmino.


yeah, that was tough luck... he tried to place it and it just missed... He's a weird fricker, but he MAY be our best player...
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23572 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:14 pm to
Seeing reports we may go back in for De Vrij in Jan.. he can sign a pre-contract then, but may be available for cheap so Lazio can get something for him...

If we could get him and VVD, I'd shut up about the CBs for a while Hopefully, at least one in Jan...
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38811 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:38 pm to
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If we could get him and VVD, I'd shut up about the CBs for a while


That would make me happy.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38811 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:45 pm to
Here's an article discussing 10 players available on a free transfer for summer 2018...

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/10-huge-players-who-are-currently-going-free-transfers-summer-2018

Goretzka seems most likely to be of interest to Klopp, though knocking on Jose Gimenez door just to gauge his interest wouldn't be a bad thing.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23572 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:06 pm to
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Jose Gimenez


I'd def take him over De Vrij... He's can play a little reckless at times, but he's the type of SOB our squad is missing...
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19474 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:55 pm to
I'm with Henry on Ox. Dude needs to show something.

Feel like he's been in the league for 8 years and hasn't really ever truly stood out.

Will be interesting to see how we use him but he's someone we absolutely didn't need.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23572 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:48 pm to
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I'm with Henry on Ox. Dude needs to show something.

Feel like he's been in the league for 8 years and hasn't really ever truly stood out.

Will be interesting to see how we use him but he's someone we absolutely didn't need.



I think he is good depth and adds to the squad... With our current group of players I don't see him being a nailed on starter week in and out..
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39465 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:58 pm to
He isn't leaving atletico
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20252 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

I like Hendo and defend him, but I'd be okay with him going into the squad rotation... and us adding a real holding mid.. He def isn't undroppable.. In our current squad, the only player that benches him is Can.


it's not that i don't like hendo, he's just fricking slow as christmas and gets beat quite a lot. Ox is a fantastic athlete with pace to spare, hence why i think it would be a perfect substitution until we can get keita.
Posted by TheZaba
FL
Member since Oct 2008
6196 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:41 pm to
We already could probably use a true destroyer in midfield so I doubt we're gonna take off the only thing we have close to that to put on another attack minded player.

I have no problem with Henderson. Sure he could be better defending but he's not near as bad as some people say I think. Yes, he would probably work better as part of a pivot, but that's just not our system. And our system is partly to blame too. There's gonna be openings to attack us, but we have to do better closing down and not giving up such easy chances.
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
7024 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:06 am to
De Vrij has injury issues, right? While the talent is there, I'd rather have someone we could rely upon.

Hendo and Ox are definitely not subs for eac hother. Of course, Hendo could be out, Can drop to the 6 and Ox be one of the 8s. But they don't replace eachother specifically.

Ox will play either 8 and both wings. He'll start plenty of games - no way Salah, Mane etc. can start 60 games this year. Hell, I'll be pissed if ether starts more than 45-47 or so.

Will be interesting to see our lineup without Mane this weekend - Cou in on the wing or in midfield Ox in wing or midfield? Or go more of a Studge diamond type formation?

Our guys looked gassed already last game, so rotation is needed big time.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38811 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:30 am to
I like the idea of Ox on the wing and Phil in MF better than your other options. Keep Bobby at the false 9 too.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38811 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 5:54 pm to
So the Burnley match isn't being televised? Or am I missing the listing?
Posted by TheZaba
FL
Member since Oct 2008
6196 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:14 pm to
I guess the gold package thing or whatever. I'll probably find a stream
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23572 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:11 pm to
frick... I need to go find that thread on this gold package.. I knew it would come up sooner or later..

edit: ok just bought it, but the service isn't available on my Apple TV 3rd gen... pain in the fricking arse...
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 8:47 pm
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