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Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:01 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Vicks Kennel Club
Just so we are all clear, since you can't defend your stance on how doomed the US was without Landy, you just call a thread retarded and act as if it's some sort of troll job?
As if we had lost twice, we wouldn't have had some "Told you we would miss Landy" threads. 
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:01 pm to Bho
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So many people acted as if the US had no shot without him. The other side said it wasn't that big of a deal. Is it trolling because you were wrong?
Go back and find me saying this team had no chance of winning because of Landon not being there.
Seriously, do it.
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As I suspected when the decision was made, having Landy or not would make no difference for this team.
There is no way to prove that at all. We could have easily scored an extra goal against Ghana or beaten Portugal. We also could have easily lost both of those games with LD.
We don't know. For you to say he would have no affect is just asinine.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:02 pm to uway
And I think he would have been valuable regardless of his role, but it is the most futile exercise yet.
Like I said before the World Cup, I am anti-Jurgen. I am happy with the four points, but this has not changed my mind on him. I still do not think he is a great coach or anything and he is not a savior of US soccer. More than anything, it is the incredible play of guys like Fab and Jones that I like to give credit to.
Coaches often get too much credit or blame, but I am all for applauding or ripping them with dreadful personnel decisions. I can live with a poor sub decision, but not obvious errors in judgment or experimenting with stupid ideas that have sucked in the past.
Like I said before the World Cup, I am anti-Jurgen. I am happy with the four points, but this has not changed my mind on him. I still do not think he is a great coach or anything and he is not a savior of US soccer. More than anything, it is the incredible play of guys like Fab and Jones that I like to give credit to.
Coaches often get too much credit or blame, but I am all for applauding or ripping them with dreadful personnel decisions. I can live with a poor sub decision, but not obvious errors in judgment or experimenting with stupid ideas that have sucked in the past.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:02 pm to uway
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we would be doing the shite out of it if we were 0-2 with no offensive production.
Sure, but at some point, everyone just needs to sit back and enjoy the moment
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:03 pm to Broski
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Go back and find me saying this team had no chance of winning because of Landon not being there.
Seriously, do it.
I'm not sifting through 1000 + crybaby posts to prove anything.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:04 pm to Bho
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I'm not sifting through 1000 + crybaby posts to prove anything.
So why can't you defend what you said?
Scared?
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:04 pm to Broski
Landy would have made ZERO difference. DWI
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:06 pm to Bho
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Landy would have made ZERO difference. DWI
What's not an opinion however is that Brad Davis has made ZERO difference.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:07 pm to Broski
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What's not an opinion however is that Brad Davis has made ZERO difference.
Nah, He may have been an awesome asset to the scout team in practice.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:08 pm to Bho
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Just so we are all clear, since you can't defend your stance on how doomed the US was without Landy, you just call a thread retarded and act as if it's some sort of troll job?
It is an absolutely retarded premise at best.
I have never said we were fricked without Landy. I did say that it was a moronic and the most shocking decision I have experienced as a sports fan. I still think Jurgen is as stupid as you are for doing it.
At most, I questioned where goals would come from, but fortunately, that has not been an issue. No one ever said we were fricked without Landon. We hoped we could overcome the admission. A lot of people just thought that it could hurt our chances, and I was certainly one of those.
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As if we had lost twice, we wouldn't have had some "Told you we would miss Landy" threads.
Absolutely. There are stupid threads every day now, and you just took the cake with your abortion of an OP.
But continue being the cool troll you think you are.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:09 pm to Bho
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Nah, He may have been an awesome asset to the scout team in practice.
Landon would have been a better scout teamer, DWI
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:10 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
I agreed with leaving Landon off the roster, but I admit I wasn't completely confident about it.
It reminded me of Maradona leaving Cambiasso and Zanetti off the 2010 roster. It came to bite us in the arse against Germany. We needed experience and leadership on defense.
If the US had struggled to score, then you would need someone like Landon to bring the magic. But, it has worked out for us. I'm happy about that. However, it is still early.
It reminded me of Maradona leaving Cambiasso and Zanetti off the 2010 roster. It came to bite us in the arse against Germany. We needed experience and leadership on defense.
If the US had struggled to score, then you would need someone like Landon to bring the magic. But, it has worked out for us. I'm happy about that. However, it is still early.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:10 pm to uway
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We've scored enough to win both games, just not enough to bail out the defense in the second. Scored as many goals as we did in a weaker group in South Africa and twice as many as we did in 2006.
We have a way better player pool, and Jermaine Jones is a man on a mission.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:12 pm to Bho
no
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:15 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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I am all for applauding or ripping them with dreadful personnel decisions. I can live with a poor sub decision, but not obvious errors in judgment or experimenting with stupid ideas that have sucked in the past.
I've given up thinking you will ever be rational about this (and please don't dispute that because you have said things like "I will always hate Jurgen for this"), but how can you sit there and say with certainty that these were "dreadful" personnel decisions?
How can you say he made an error in judgement? No one knows what went into his judgement, but the team has played well enough that it would seem to make sense to trust his judgement a little more than y'all have.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:18 pm to uway
Again, why are we even talking about this?
OUR WORLD CUP LIVES ARE AT STAKE COME THURSDAY and Landon is not a part of it.
There was literally no reason for this thread other than to reopen old soccer board wounds.
OUR WORLD CUP LIVES ARE AT STAKE COME THURSDAY and Landon is not a part of it.
There was literally no reason for this thread other than to reopen old soccer board wounds.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:19 pm to Bho
You are a troll who gets off on antagonizing people with pointlessly argumentative posts and the board will be better the day you decide to leave.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:21 pm to Keys Open Doors
I don't know his post history, but this thread is far from illegitimate. I don't know why this is such a sensitive subject for people.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:22 pm to SabiDojo
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but this thread is far from illegitimate.
Explain.
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I don't know why this is such a sensitive subject for people.
Because the Landon talk had died once the tournament started only to be zombified right before one of the biggest matches in US Soccer history.
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