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re: The passion of U.S. soccer fans seems fake...

Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:36 pm to
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:36 pm to
I remember the days when you could only get shite Diadora and Mitre ( ) boots here. Not the good Diadora, either.

Beckenbauer´s were like manna from heaven, and cost more.
Posted by gallagherkck
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:40 pm to
To answer your question OP: off base.

I'm not entirely sure what you'd expect USA soccer fans to do. They wear red, white, and blue, wave the Stars and Stripes, scream "USA" until their vocal chords pop, hate Mexico, and cheer loudly for their fellow Americans.

Tennis and golf fans act very much like their European counterparts with certain etiquette during matches and play. Not everything has to be Bud Light and Wranglers.

Jesus, either get onboard or don't. Frankly, I love what USA soccer fans do and I'm proud to be in their midst whenever I get the chance.

Dos a cero, bitches. See you in Brazil.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:40 pm to
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As the league continues to increase the number of teams, conferences will need to stay. So too will the playoffs, because when MLS reaches more than 20 teams it'll be tough to have everyone play each other home-and-home each year.


Sure, but for a long time there were there for no good reason. A single table would have sufficed for the majority of MLS's history.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:43 pm to
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Tennis and golf fans act very much like their European counterparts with certain etiquette during matches and play. Not everything has to be Bud Light and Wranglers.


This can't be true. Etiquette and silence MUST be an American thing. We couldn't possibly tolerate it otherwise.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36821 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:46 pm to
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say shite like..."oh, bad luck" when a player screws up.

"unlucky" you frickin wanker
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:51 pm to
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To answer your question OP: off base.

I'm not entirely sure what you'd expect USA soccer fans to do. They wear red, white, and blue, wave the Stars and Stripes, scream "USA" until their vocal chords pop, hate Mexico, and cheer loudly for their fellow Americans.

Tennis and golf fans act very much like their European counterparts with certain etiquette during matches and play. Not everything has to be Bud Light and Wranglers.

Jesus, either get onboard or don't. Frankly, I love what USA soccer fans do and I'm proud to be in their midst whenever I get the chance.


None of this explains anything except the cheering.

None of what you said explains:

1. Why MLS had to copy ridiculous Euro soccer names for American cities so that it sounds even more ridiculous and is completely obvious to the rest of the world that we have no clue about soccer we have to copy them.

2. How every "fan" had to become "a supporter". You know what Brit American football fans call themselves? "Supporters" - they don't start calling themselves fans just because they're watching American football...but the US fans have to become "supporters" and be "hooligans" just because they're watching soccer...how cute.

3. The phrases of jersey and uniforms changed to "kits" like across the pond...pitch not field.

4. Scarves...and other apparel that you never had seen before from American FANS...suddenly, we're copying Euro.

That's the point of the thread. American soccer "supporters" in the MLS are playing dress-up and pretending to be European soccer fans instead of just being themselves. Instead of meshing American culture with American soccer.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:56 pm to
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"unlucky"
This still kills me.
Posted by svb
Missouri Fan
Member since Jun 2012
3127 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:56 pm to
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Instead of meshing American culture with American soccer.

lol.

USA fans have done this well. Tailgating and (some of) the songs/chants you hear at games in the US are different than ones around the world (chanting Wu-Tang Clan lyrics and singing other American songs, I Believe...(which I don't like but the point still stands). Not to mention playoffs, a salary cap, conferences. There are a lot of purely American things in MLS.

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1. Why MLS had to copy ridiculous Euro soccer names for American cities so that it sounds even more ridiculous and is completely obvious to the rest of the world that we have no clue about soccer we have to copy them.

Real Salt Lake, and I guess to an extent DC United are the only examples of this. There is nothing wrong with FC Dallas or Toronto FC and Sporting Kansas City isn't just a soccer team, there are plans for a rugby team and possibly lacrosse team under the same organization and it sounds better to be Sporting Kansas City (Sporting Club is actually the organization of all the teams in the network) than to be the Kansas City Wizards.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 11:00 pm
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:59 pm to
Haters can go frick themselves. I think pumping cotton eye joe or sandstorm over the PA to pump up the fans are kinda lame.
Posted by americanoutlaw
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
4919 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:01 pm to
This thread is so stupid you temporarily broke tigerdroppings
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Member since Nov 2003
3702 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:04 pm to
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Why MLS had to copy ridiculous Euro soccer names for American cities so that it sounds even more ridiculous and is completely obvious to the rest of the world that we have no clue about soccer we have to copy them.
Kansas City was the Wizards until a few years ago, and had rainbow jerseys. I can see why you might be confused that they were emulating their European brethren, but it was actually because of the Wizard of Oz. They became Sporting KC because of branding.

Chivas USA is a straight up branding poo fest.

FC Dallas were the Dallas Burn at first. They rebranded because the Dallas Burn was a shitty name.

DC United, okay. Real Salt Lake, okay, but is it any stupider than the Utah Jazz? Chalk it up to those wacky Mormons.

So, that's five teams. You may also want to count Toronto FC to get to six. However, there's also thirteen other teams.

New England Revolution. New York Metrostars (changed to Red Bull because of, you guessed it, branding). Columbus Crew. Colorado Rapids. Los Angeles Galaxy. San Jose Clash (rebranded Earthquakes). Chicago Fire. Houston Dynamo. Seattle Sounders. Portland Timbers. Vancouver Whitecaps. Philadelphia Union. Montreal Impact.

There are also two defunct teams: Miami Fusion. Tampa Bay Mutiny.

Your point about "copying" European naming styles, debunked.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30531 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:04 pm to
Yea, this guy is still trying to beat the same drum 4 hours later and its kind of sad.

It never crossed this fools mind that the American soccer fans are being themselves. They enjoy this culture. IT IS who they are as soccer fans.

He is too busy hating and telling folks who they should be to see the simple truth pass right in front of his moronic arse.

Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:04 pm to
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1. Why MLS had to copy ridiculous Euro soccer names for American cities so that it sounds even more ridiculous and is completely obvious to the rest of the world that we have no clue about soccer we have to copy them.



Because the Dallas Burn, Houston Dynamo and San Jose Earthquakes are so fricking awesome.

ETA: Go back to fondling Kiffin while I enjoy my fake happiness at 5:00 AM over here.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 11:06 pm
Posted by americanoutlaw
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
4919 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:06 pm to
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2. How every "fan" had to become "a supporter". You know what Brit American football fans call themselves? "Supporters" - they don't start calling themselves fans just because they're watching American football...but the US fans have to become "supporters" and be "hooligans" just because they're watching soccer...how cute.

3. The phrases of jersey and uniforms changed to "kits" like across the pond...pitch not field.

I alternate these terms a lot. Guess you could say I'm a little bicurious
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:07 pm to
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Dallas Burn
Now, if you were a strong side, this name has ALOT of potential. In all aspects of marketing.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31264 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:08 pm to
I stopped reading after a page of this thread, but some of the guys on here made some really superficial and intellectually lazy posts. You guys making these assumptions are not ones who consistently watch soccer.

We should probably consider almost everything we do fake then because the States are a nation of adaption and turning things into our own.
Posted by LL012697
Texas
Member since May 2013
4045 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:10 pm to
Nothing tops the NY/NJ Metrostars
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

1. Why MLS had to copy ridiculous Euro soccer names for American cities so that it sounds even more ridiculous and is completely obvious to the rest of the world that we have no clue about soccer we have to copy them.


Everyone agrees its dumb. But its a result of America's obsession with hyper-commercializing everything that has to do with sports. If America wasn't so obsessed with naming a squad based on what would make the most money they wouldn't have this issue.

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2. How every "fan" had to become "a supporter". You know what Brit American football fans call themselves? "Supporters" - they don't start calling themselves fans just because they're watching American football...but the US fans have to become "supporters" and be "hooligans" just because they're watching soccer...how cute.


Are you really complaining about this? Its a word. Who fricking cares?

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3. The phrases of jersey and uniforms changed to "kits" like across the pond...pitch not field.


If this (and the above) is really all you have then lol.

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4. Scarves...and other apparel that you never had seen before from American FANS...suddenly, we're copying Euro.


So now we're limited on our apparel? What's next, if you aren;t wearing head to toe denim you aren't American? Why are you so nit picky?

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That's the point of the thread. American soccer "supporters" in the MLS are playing dress-up and pretending to be European soccer fans instead of just being themselves. Instead of meshing American culture with American soccer.



Damn, you got us. We wear scarves, use two European terms instead of American ones, and are victims of our own country's retarded marketing schemes.

Did you really start a thread over something so minuscule?
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:12 pm to
Oh I forgot, the Defense! chant is kinda lame too.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:16 pm to
Seriously. What´s with the Brit shite? English are English, Scots are Scots, Northern Irish are whatever, Cornish are Cornish, and Welsh are Welsh.










well, maybe you could call Cornish, British.


ETA Northern Irish, I still don´t know. ´Aprovechados´or thick headed, maybe.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 11:18 pm
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