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re: So the heat and humidity might not play to our advantage

Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:26 am to
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:26 am to
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In early March?



He even said not all the MLS guys where match fit to his standard just stop.

That and early march in almost all MLS cities def doesn't help get used to brazil in june
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 8:28 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:27 am to
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We need to keep possession more to keep energy use down.



easier said than done vs more techincal teams
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:31 am to
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to his standard just stop.



Means Overworked.
Klinsmann better not blow this opportunity he almost cost us the game by sitting on the lead
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:31 am to
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Klinsmann better not blow this opportunity he almost cost us the game by sitting on the lead


Ignorant
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:31 am to
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Chasing the ball vs an athletic team will gas you.

We need to keep possession more to keep energy use down.


yeah, I felt this was the biggest reason for us being gassed. we'd have been gassed anywhere that particular game was being played.

the hammy stuff is just a freak thing. heat had nothing to do with it, though we can all speculate as to why they happened. truth is, it probably was just a shitty, unlucky thing that happens sometimes which probably couldn't have been avoided.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:32 am to
Bull shite it is
Posted by Sheep
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:35 am to
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Klinsmann better not blow this opportunity he almost cost us the game by sitting on the lead


We weren't sitting on a lead as much as getting bombarded in attack, and scrambling to defend.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:35 am to
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Means Overworked.


His standard is not to overwork players. When he first took over yes he had to b/c he said the overall fitness of our players was lacking. But now thats not the case. This wasn't a fresh out of offseason camp. The MLS guys need a little work but nothing extreme.

quote:

Klinsmann better not blow this opportunity he almost cost us the game by sitting on the lead



You have to be shitting me
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 8:37 am
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:40 am to
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His standard is not to overwork players


The goal was to have all the players at optimal conditioning going into the game. If anyone really thinks that Juergen and the training staff worked the players without being aware of the ultimate goal, they are utterly clueless.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:41 am to
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We weren't sitting on a lead as much as getting bombarded in attack, and scrambling to defend.


Because we weren't pushing the ball. This shite happens when you sit on a lead
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:41 am to
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Because we weren't pushing the ball. This shite happens when you sit on a lead



You really just need to stop.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:46 am to
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Because we weren't pushing the ball. This shite happens when you sit on a lead


If that is what you got from watching last night then i don't know what to tell you. We never had enough possession to push the ball up the field. Possession wise Ghana killed us in the midfield and our forwards never had time on the ball. Our defense played well and kept Ghana from having a lot of good chances on goal. But outside of that and the fact that we won, the game was kind of rough.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:48 am to
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The goal was to have all the players at optimal conditioning going into the game. If anyone really thinks that Juergen and the training staff worked the players without being aware of the ultimate goal, they are utterly clueless.



Exactly why im saying perceived advantage people thought we would have in these conditions really isn't there. Hopefully we acclimate faster than the other teams.

Dunno how this got derailed into blaming Klins
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 8:50 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:52 am to
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around 65-70mins the team looked gassed like the climate had worn them down.

i think running around trying to play bunker defense with a 4-1-2-1-2 is what made us break down
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:53 am to
I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that the team was overworked. Two a days for most of the camp, and Klinsmann's penchant for focusing too much on fitness (and then seeing muscle pulls happening left and right) certainly make that believable.

That said, it's completely unreasonable to believe we were intentionally sitting on the lead. We had the game dictated to us, and responded as best we could.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:54 am to
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i think running around trying to play bunker defense with a 4-1-2-1-2 is what made us break down



we also may have started to fast
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:54 am to
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perceived advantage people thought we would have in these conditions really isn't there


That thread was stupid for two main reasons:


1. It assumed that all Americans are used to South Louisiana weather

2. It forgot that Portugal still owns Madeira and the Azores. They might not be the Atchafalaya, but it's not like the Portuguese have never been in heat or humidity before.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:56 am to
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1. It assumed that all Americans are used to South Louisiana weather



quote:

. It forgot that Portugal still owns Madeira and the Azores


I said before most people on here have no idea where/what that is.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481250 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:00 am to
that early goal was great, but at the same time it put ghana into super push mode. we tried to sit back and counter. we just didn't have the midfield (or when jozy went out, the holdup play up top) to bust them. we almost did a few times

running around trying to bunker with 2 forwards just wore us down. we also lost 2 subs due to injury (hammy pulls have nothing to do with the heat)
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:04 am to
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Klinsmann better not blow this opportunity he almost cost us the game by sitting on the lead


:jagsfan:

Klinsmann has put himself in a bit of a pickle with roster selection, and he might have overworked them in camp, but he definitely didn't choose to "sit on the lead" last night.

To respond to the OP, who knows if it WILL play to our advantage. It didn't last night, but I think most teams would have wilted under sustained pressure from a side as physically gifted as Ghana is.
That said, we could have had more possession and more rest had we been smarter with the ball.
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