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re: So how fricked are we for the WC?

Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:51 am to
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:51 am to
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We don't have the star power of certain other teams but we seem to be getting a group of players that work really well together.


Yeah, I'm not going to have awesome expectations, but I think that the US has an alright chance of taking points off of all but a few teams. Inevitably, there will be a few teams that self-destruct and a number of upsets. As long as the US doesn't end up in a group with two exceptionally well functioning teams, I think that they have a measurable opportunity to advance.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 10:57 am to
Not really worried about Columbia. Don't think there's enough talent in south Carolina or Missouri to take us down. I just hope we don't get paired with Colombia.
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 10:58 am
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13529 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 11:01 am to
I didn't really want to win the World Cup anyway.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
21088 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 11:33 am to
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I didn't really want to win the World Cup anyway.

picturing Adam from your avi saying this made me
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
Team Am Mart
Member since Apr 2009
19746 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 11:41 am to
I got:

Germany
USA
Algeria
Italy

Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9753 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 11:50 am to
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Columbia sucks. I don't think any of their players play for big sides. Or do they all play in the Columbian domestic league?



Colombia has one of the most stacked rosters in the WC; their top players just don't play in England.

They almost all play and star for big sides. The few that don't are soon to be the next €30m transfers for clubs like Udinese and Cagliari.

In addition to Switzerland, I'd rather draw Belgium or Uruguay over Colombia even though beating any of the 1st pot sides will be unlikely.



In addition to Falcao, Luis Muriel (Udinese) and Juan Cuadrado (Fiorentina), Jackson Martinez (Porto), James Rodriguez (Monaco) and Victor Ibarbo (Cagliari) are budding superstars in the attack.

Fredy Guarin (Inter) and Pablo Armero (Napoli) are world class players. Zuniga (Napoli) Yepes (Atalanta) and Zapata (AC Milan) are all experienced higher level defenders.

The only real question they may have is GK as I don't even recall who's started there for them recently?

I'd consider Colombia much more of a "dark horse" threat to win the whole tournament than teams like Belgium or Chile people mention.


Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:09 pm to
cuadrado would destroy our fullbacks. it would be a massacre.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9753 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 12:19 pm to
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cuadrado would destroy our fullbacks. it would be a massacre.


Not to even mention that you'd have Pablo Armero (who may be the best attacking LB in the world) busting down the other flank all while trying to mark Falcao probably coupled with a lightning quick second striker like Luis Muriel with Fredy Guarin or James Rodriguez sitting in behind.

The more I think about it, I'd probably like our chances more against Argentina that at least has more issues in defense.


This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 12:21 pm
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

I got:

Germany
USA
Algeria
Italy




I'd take that.

Italy ain't what they used to be, and Germany would be a good story and Jurgen would get the team fired up. Algeria, we should beat 8 out of 10 times.

Edit:

I just got:

Belgium
Ghana
Bos-Hertz
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 1:39 pm
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:39 pm to
Italy beat Germany in their last competitive match.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:41 pm to
According to Wiki, it looks like their starting goalkeeper plays for Nice but is currently injured. As a consequence, they were forced to call in Faryd Mondragon for their friendlies these past few days

Sounds like they're a couple of injuries away from calling Rene Higuita up
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Italy beat Germany in their last competitive match



No they didn't.
They tied 1-1 in a friendly in Italy.

They then tied Nigeria 2-2 in a friendly in England.

Their qualifying group had Denmark, Czech, Malta, Bulgaria, and Malta.

We'da won that group.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:45 pm to
I'd MUCH rather play Uruguay (and probably) Argentina than Colombia.

Want no part of Colombia or Belgium in 2014. There are many "name" sides (France, Italy, Portugal, England, any of the African sides) that I'd rather see.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118620 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 1:53 pm to
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Want no part of Colombia or Belgium in 2014. There are many "name" sides (France, Italy, Portugal, England, any of the African sides) that I'd rather see.


Right there with you, Sheep. I want zero to do with Colombia. They are scary good where we have problems. Same with Belgium.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:21 pm to
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No they didn't.
They tied 1-1 in a friendly in Italy.

In their last COMPETITIVE match, which was in Euro 2012, Italy beat Germany 2-1.

Friendly =/= competitive match.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:23 pm to
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friendly
Cherry, drop the weed. Cwill said
quote:

competitive
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Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9753 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Italy beat Germany in their last competitive match.




quote:


No they didn't.
They tied 1-1 in a friendly in Italy.



He means competitive in that it's not a friendly and that Italy beat Germany in their last competitive match against them in EURO 2012.

I'd think the USA may have a better chance against Italy than some of the other top10 sides but it would certainly be like picking cyanide instead of arsenic to hope for them in a group from the 4th pot.

What's perhaps better about a potential match-up with Italy (compared to Colombia or Germany, for example) is that they often have trouble putting over matched sides who stay packed back on defense away even if they're completely dominating the midfield (like against England in the last EUROs).

I still certainly wouldn't count on Italy not being among the last few European sides standing next summer. They usually always are.








quote:


Their qualifying group had Denmark, Czech, Malta, Bulgaria, and Malta.

We'da won that group.


Maybe but Denmark and Czech Republic are certainly not pushovers. Armenia with Henrikh Mkhitaryan is dangerous like Montenegro.


That said, I'd agree that Italy isn't the same style team they've been in the past. Their strength is in the smooth as silk passing midfield and CBs that aren't defenders on the level of their past greats but better at playing the ball out of the back and picking out key passes.

Their weakness is similar to Juve's, where most of the starters play, inconsistency at putting away all the chances the midfield creates so a lot will rest on Balotelli being clinical, everyone's favorite Rossi or some of the younger second strikers like Lorenzo Insigne, Alessio Cerci or maybe El-Sharawaay providing some quality off the bench.

This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 2:38 pm
Posted by boomtapp
Houston, Tejas
Member since Nov 2007
780 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:34 pm to
Columbia
USA
Ghana
Netherlands


Posted by boomtapp
Houston, Tejas
Member since Nov 2007
780 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Henrikh Mkhitaryan


gesundheit
Posted by svb
Missouri Fan
Member since Jun 2012
3127 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:48 pm to
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Columbia sucks.

quote:

Colombia has one of the most stacked rosters in the WC


I was saying Columbia sucks, not Colombia.
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