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re: SKY: United & Liverpool in European Premiere League talks

Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:01 pm to
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In this scenario I'd imagine it would have to be City.


Disagree.
It’s probably Tottenham. Not due to popularity or fan base at all
Man City just has more money to throw around
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:47 am to
So what clubs around Europe will form the 18 invited to this?

The EPL top “six”

Barca and RM, maybe Atlético

Juventus, maybe AC or Inter Milan

Bayern Munich, maybe Dortmund

PSG

And make there no limit on the number of clubs from one country, so that a few successful non “big six” EPL clubs can become part of the 3 that earn their way in, as determined by the UEFA Champions League
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 7:54 am
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:26 am to
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The EPL top “six”

It will only be 5 as the OP/article said

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Barca and RM, maybe Atlético

All 3

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Juventus, maybe AC or Inter Milan

All 3 + Roma

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Bayern Munich, maybe Dortmund

These 2 (although in a recent article when this came up in 2018 Bayern was very vocally against it, I actually wouldn’t be shocked that with Germany’s stance in this kind of shite they don’t join)
wouldn’t be surprised if Leipzig gets in with their financial backing

What’s also noted Is Schalke is normally one of the more valuable teams in Germany and Europe but they’re dog shite right now and going through money issues

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PSG

Possibly Lyon and Marseille

With Germany this makes 17

I also feel like maybe some of these teams will be thrown around
Porto or Benefica
One of the big 3 in Turkey
Shaktar
Ajax


This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 10:33 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 4:03 pm to
Would you be shocked if the league goes more toward representing cities than the actual clubs in them?

That way they can expand the TV market to places that currently don’t have a high level club
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 4:09 pm to
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Would you be shocked if the league goes more toward representing cities than the actual clubs in them?


No they’ll pick the clubs with the largest following/best financial backing

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That way they can expand the TV market to places that currently don’t have a high level club

Think you’re basically hitting all the “top” cities with all the teams they’re predicting anyway.

This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 4:10 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 4:20 pm to
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Think you’re basically hitting all the “top” cities with all the teams they’re predicting anyway.



LINK

so what you're saying is

#2 Galatasaray
#3 Chelsea
#3 Arsenal
#4 PSG
#5 Real Madrid
#5 Atletico Madrid
#6 AC Milan
#6 Inter Milan
#7 Borussia Dortmund
#10 Barcelona
#14 Roma
#17 Manchester United
#17 Manchester City
#24 Ajax
#29 Bayern Munich
#36 Olympique Lyonnais
#37 Liverpool
#41 Marseille
#43 Juventus
#47 Shakhtar Donetsk

i can't see Donetsk or any French team other than PSG included in right off the bat. you'll also have to have spots that can be earned, and they said it will have up to 18 teams. that's why only so many can be founding members
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 4:33 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 4:32 pm to
It’s a league to protect the major players revenue permanently

A league of the top not based on merit or quality

It would just lead to a consolidation of power and best players even more than now
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:45 pm to
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LINK
so what you're saying is

So you’re just going by population size? No that’s not how it works

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you'll also have to have spots that can be earned,

That’s not at all what anything said has pointed to

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and they said it will have up to 18 teams. that's why only so many can be founding members


Have they said anything about that?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:45 pm to
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It’s a league to protect the major players revenue permanently

A league of the top not based on merit or quality

Yes why it will just be 18 of the “most valuable” clubs
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:49 pm to
Yea which makes it’s a bullshite league
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:33 pm to
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Yes why it will just be 18 of the “most valuable” clubs

the clubs won't be what is valuable. it will be their place in the league
Posted by WinnPtiger
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:51 pm to
I really hope Bayern and god forbid BVB tell them to pound sound. this is so far outside the realm for the German football ethos. frick England. period
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:35 pm to
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the clubs won't be what is valuable. it will be their place in the league

What?
The 18 that they choose will be the ones they deem most valuable
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:55 pm to
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18 that they choose will be the ones they deem most valuable

yeah and if they basically can’t be relegated for 20 years...

I’d want it to be the central destination for every top player in the world, much like the leagues in America are in our sports. I kind of feel like I’ve missed out as a PL fan seeing the greats from other leagues (I’m not trying to find all of them on tv). If they can ensure parity and their superiority, it’s the natural next evolution of club soccer.

Yes. I’m the “plastic” fan that will watch this league, as an American who knows American sports. Some need to deal with it.

When we talk about the big 5 leagues in Europe, that’s 98 teams, plus the major teams like Ajax or the Old Firm who aren’t in one of those leagues. That’s too many for most fans to follow. The Champions League was an attempt at this but it’s imperfect
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 10:58 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:19 am to
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yeah and if they basically can’t be relegated for 20 years..

That’s why everyone is pissed off
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:26 am to
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That’s why everyone is pissed off


Being led by American owners they are trying to lay the groundwork for a closed franchise system
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:29 am to
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Being led by American owners they are trying to lay the groundwork for a closed franchise system


American owners use sports teams as another investment
They’re great at making money
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:59 am to
Well yea duh

Problem is that’s not the culture of most clubs and leagues around the world

A majority of owners just want to win and break even or turn a slight profit

Not turn their clubs into something they can milk money out of like the Glazers
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 7:00 am
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 7:07 am to
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Well yea duh

Ah okay just wanted to make sure

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Problem is that’s not the culture of most clubs and leagues around the world

They don’t give a shite though. LBOs man. If only you can make them illegal in sports
Then again never mind that’s communist

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A majority of owners just want to win and break even or turn a slight profit

Not turn their clubs into something they can milk money out of like the Glazers

Do you think the league itself doesn’t care because they’re getting more and more cash with them, John Henry, The Saudis etc?
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 7:08 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 7:29 am to
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They don’t give a shite though. LBOs man. If only you can make them illegal in sports
Then again never mind that’s communist


A closed franchise system is basically communist
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