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re: Program suggestions for a naturally gifted toddler?

Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:31 pm to
This thread has devolved into what I exactly thought it would devolve into.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:50 pm to
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being mediocre in three sports doesn’t prepare you to be exceptional at anything.

You can be excellent at one sport while still playing multiple. There is a reason that Olympic athletes cross train. Tim Howard and Christian Pulisic were both avid basketball players before focusing on soccer. Players flame out all the time due to injuries and cross training by playing different sports rather than being hyper focused on one helps prevent this. Obviously elite athletes will eventually specialize.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:06 pm to
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Make sure he continues to play other sports. He shouldn’t specialize until mid way through high school.



This is a reason why this country is so far behind in development with soccer

Waiting till mid way through HS is terrible advice if becoming a serious soccer player is on the table

By that age if it’s not your full time gig you will be so far behind others it’s crazy, especially kids from other countries.

Dudes in other countries are basically professionals at 16 and your saying wait till HS is a good idea
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 3:17 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:11 pm to
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They don't start when they are 3.


Some are in youth set ups by 5 and 6 though

Clubs legit go to those micro soccer type games and scout kids that early

By the age of 10 in Europe kids are done dicking around with other sports if they have been identified as very talented in a certain sport
Posted by Winston Cup
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:32 pm to
get him in the gym doing resistance training
Posted by jackwoods4
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:34 pm to
Yeah but has anybody told his toddler to get the ball to the Italians?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:48 pm to
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get him in the gym doing resistance training



LMAOOOO

my two boys try and lift weights already
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:51 pm to
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Yeah but has anybody told his toddler to get the ball to the Italians?




Not gonna lie I told my six year old to stop the kid show parents are only speaking Spanish to him.
Posted by saderade
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:23 pm to
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TDcline
Honestly at that age just keep it fun for him playing in the backyard etc. When he starts to play in a league, if he is much more advanced than kids his age, play him up an age group. I recommend playing a few different sports until he is at least 10.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:29 pm to
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This is a reason why this country is so far behind in development with soccer



I wouldn't even put it in the top ten of reasons.

Cross-training is a good idea, but it won't make a difference with respect to a player's ability to make it, given how poorly our soccer infrastructure is.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:36 pm to
So Liverpool hasnt recruited him to the U-5 team,he may want to hang up his boots and kit. His days on the pitch are over.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:55 pm to
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This is a reason why this country is so far behind in development with soccer

Waiting till mid way through HS is terrible advice if becoming a serious soccer player is on the table

The point is to avoid injury and avoid burnout. Injured, burned out players don’t become soccer stars.
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I wouldn't even put it in the top ten of reasons

It’s not, but hyperbole about why we suck at soccer is fun for some on this board.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 6:57 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:51 pm to
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The point is to avoid injury and avoid burnout. Injured, burned out players don’t become soccer stars.



injury and burn out can be prevent in other countries when kids focus just on soccer from a young age

a big thing is they don't focus on the actually score until they are older

once again saying wait until half way through HS is terrible advice is soccer is a serious career path for a kid

at 16 kids in other countries are either pros or about to sign a pro contract
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It’s not, but hyperbole about why we suck at soccer is fun for some on this board.



it def is an issue when kids are playing 3-4 sports while their counterparts are developing in only one.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 8:53 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:01 pm to
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I wouldn't even put it in the top ten of reasons.

Cross-training is a good idea, but it won't make a difference with respect to a player's ability to make it, given how poorly our soccer infrastructure is.


its a great idea when they are younger

but once around 10-12 if they are not playing basically year around they will be left behind and fast
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:03 pm to
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injury and burn out can be prevent in other countries when kids focus just on soccer from a young age

Educate me sir. You don’t think they play handball or whatever other euro shite in addition to soccer when they’re younger?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:07 pm to
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Educate me sir. You don’t think they play handball or whatever other euro shite in addition to soccer when they’re younger?



you really like ignoring the rest of the post LOL

hand ball players are usually bigger than soccer players anyway

My point is these kids at a certain age make a firm choice

They play other sports until about 10-12 if that then focus on footie. Sometimes even earlier. Not lots of burn out issues bc the passion to be a pro is def there for lots of these kids as its a way out of poverty.

Everything at the academy is tailored to prevent injuries and burn out

Unlike the majority of the youth soccer set up here
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:31 pm to
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Everything at the academy is tailored to prevent injuries and burn out

How so?

And honestly man, y’all can tell this dude how to make his 3 year old an all star but I’m just saying there are benefits to avoiding injury and burn out.

OP: your kid can still play two sports. Google Tanner Tessmann. He was going to play football and soccer for Clemson before signing a pro deal with FC Dallas
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 9:33 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125545 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:41 pm to
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How so?



Do you pay attention to anything about youth development?

Serious question did you play high level travel soccer?

The difference between overseas set ups and how it is done here is night and day.

Those kids are treated like professional athletes, get sports nutritionist, S&C coaches, basically a whole human performance staff.

Compared to here its your parents paying thousands for league fees and maybe a trainer to practice with your team once in a while.

Unless a kid gets in the limited amount of MLS academies. But those are so limited it doesn't even make a dent.

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And honestly man, y’all can tell this dude how to make his 3 year old an all star but I’m just saying there are benefits to avoiding injury and burn out.


Both are easily preventable, the issue is the system we have here with all youth sports in general causes injuries and burn out. A big one is every parent thinking their kid is a legit star and will be a pro.

With soccer and most sports in other countries people know by the age of 14 at the latest if thats going to happen. Then dudes just play for fun.

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OP: your kid can still play two sports. Google Tanner Tessmann. He was going to play football and soccer for Clemson before signing a pro deal with FC Dallas



You do realize he never played football

That is a terrible example
Posted by keeper007
Austin
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:52 pm to
Don’t sit there and kick the ball back and forth. He should dribble. Dribble a lot. No need to pass at this age. It’s about the ball at his feet and manipulation with both feet.

If you hear a parent yelling to pass at a game look at your kid and point to that parent having already had the convo that the ones you point to are the idiots.

When he’s about 6/7 foster him playing pickup with other kids with no parents/coaches. Drop him off to play while you go for a jog or hit your 58* or talk to Jaxson’s mom.

Try to teach courage in attacking defenders and why he should win the ball back immediately when he loses it.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:04 pm to
This guy knows what he’s talking about.
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