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Posted on 6/12/11 at 2:49 pm to LfcSU3520
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Donovan, Dempsey, and Howard are world-class
throwing around that world-class line a little too freely there I'd say
if you don't think Howard is world class idk what to tell you.
I agree that Dempsey is on the cusp of being world class.
This post was edited on 6/12/11 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 6/12/11 at 2:51 pm to LfcSU3520
Howard is one of the best 10 keepers in the world. I'd say he's world class.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 2:59 pm to hendersonshands
Yea Howard is "world class" but I don't buy donovan and dempsey just yet.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 3:00 pm to Keys Open Doors
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Ricardo Clark because he is a "defensive midfielder" (he isn't really, just a midfielder with no offense
none taken
Posted on 6/12/11 at 3:24 pm to Caplewood
Donovan is not world class. If he was, he'd be starting for a big time Euro club. He is just an above average player.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 3:33 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Donovan is not world class
Not even close, IMO
Posted on 6/12/11 at 3:35 pm to Stewie Griffin
I have a hard time even considering him "above average"
He's solid for us but world class is a huge stretch
He's solid for us but world class is a huge stretch
This post was edited on 6/12/11 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 6/12/11 at 4:03 pm to Caplewood
Disagree. His '02 and '10 world cup shows he's at least above average on the world stage.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 4:07 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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above average
The thing is... we have two above average players... and a bunch of mid-table "guys."
That's it.
"Oh noes, we can't win a world cup with barely average talent. Who knew???"
Posted on 6/12/11 at 4:09 pm to Sheep
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The thing is... we have two above average players... and a bunch of mid-table "guys."
That's it.
"Oh noes, we can't win a world cup with barely average talent. Who knew???"
so true. Posted on 6/12/11 at 4:12 pm to Stewie Griffin
I think Donovan would be a much better player if he stayed in Europe.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 4:14 pm to itawambadog
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I think Donovan would be a much better player if he stayed in Europe.
true but I just don't see that happening.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 4:22 pm to adammwilson
Hasn't Donovan stated time and time again that he wants to only play in the US?
Posted on 6/12/11 at 4:22 pm to Sheep
Yet look at the performances against Ghana and Slovenia. The only reason we got those results was due to horrible initial tactics (and one atrocious officiating decision). The team should be doing better than they have (albeit not by much).
Look at the rosters of every team in the world. There are not 15 teams with more talent than the U.S.
As for Donovan, the guy was amazing in the 2002 and 2010 World Cups. He had a great loan spell in Everton but was mostly ineffectual at Bayern Munich. He hasn't moved from the MLS because of his salary in the US. Same reason why a bunch of Russian, Turkish, and Ukranian guys are unknowns in the world scene. But he is a very skilled player and could make it in the starting rotation of a ton of quality European sides.
Look at the rosters of every team in the world. There are not 15 teams with more talent than the U.S.
As for Donovan, the guy was amazing in the 2002 and 2010 World Cups. He had a great loan spell in Everton but was mostly ineffectual at Bayern Munich. He hasn't moved from the MLS because of his salary in the US. Same reason why a bunch of Russian, Turkish, and Ukranian guys are unknowns in the world scene. But he is a very skilled player and could make it in the starting rotation of a ton of quality European sides.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 4:23 pm to LouisianaSatNight
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Hasn't Donovan stated time and time again that he wants to only play in the US?
probably.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 4:25 pm to Keys Open Doors
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But he is a very skilled player and could make it in the starting rotation of a ton of quality European sides.
Mid-level European teams. Not top rate.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 4:27 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Mid-level European teams. Not top rate.
you don't think he could start at some great EPL clubs just as an example?
Posted on 6/12/11 at 4:28 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Yeah, I would think he could make it at mid-table English sides (well, he has already done that) as well as the top sides for leagues in Turkey, Ukraine, Russia, etc.
He probably disappears too much to get in the starting 11 at a team that routinely gets in the elimination stage in the Champions League.
He probably disappears too much to get in the starting 11 at a team that routinely gets in the elimination stage in the Champions League.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 4:28 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Donovan could start for plenty of top teams.
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