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re: Major losses in excess of $2 Billion for MLS
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:09 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:09 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Gregg B
Recruits like Saban and the players love playing for him but yeah keep hating
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USSF backers
I DGAF about USSF
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:26 pm to cwil177
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He’s just reminding us that he lived in England
Oh shite really?
I had a chance to move there a few years ago.
And then I passed out
But could see it happening down the line
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:53 pm to cwil177
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You have no room to criticize when you do the exact opposite
Being a realist isn’t being the exact opposite, you defend this league with every fiber like it can’t do anything wrong
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You may hate MLS but we have a domestic league that is now stable and producing talent for our national team at unprecedented rates, after prior iterations went bankrupt and failed. But nah we gotta shite on it because we don’t do it exactly like Europe does.
MLS is basically hemorrhaging money LMAOO
The league takes huge losses every year let’s pump the breaks calling it stable
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:54 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Every league is getting hit hard by the pandemic. It’s not rocket science. Many leagues and teams around the world operate in the red every year.
You can come back her and give me a “I told you so” if the league folds. Deal?
You can come back her and give me a “I told you so” if the league folds. Deal?
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:54 pm to cwil177
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He’s just reminding us that he lived in England or something
Yet multiple posters say it lol
It’s a joke when we use it on here
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:56 pm to cwil177
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Every league is getting hit hard by the pandemic. It’s not rocket science. Many leagues and teams around the world operate in the red every year.
You can come back her and give me a “I told you so” if the league folds. Deal?
The league was in a financial mess before the pandemic
You know this get your head out the sand
The thing about the league needing to improve tv money 7 fold to break even with current operating cost isn’t a good sign.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:57 pm to StraightCashHomey21
It will be fine. Chillax, bruv.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:59 pm to cwil177
Let’s sure hope so bc owners will want a return on their investment
We have already seen more than a few owners just become non existent and not even bother
But they know they won’t get relegated so there is no punishment for it, especially for the ones who write their losses as a tax write off.
The owners actually make their money from the media rights that controls all soccer league being shown on tv.
The owners are just using MLS as a vehicle to have their hands in the overall tv rights of the country. That’s why so many of them can’t be bothered to do shite
We have already seen more than a few owners just become non existent and not even bother
But they know they won’t get relegated so there is no punishment for it, especially for the ones who write their losses as a tax write off.
The owners actually make their money from the media rights that controls all soccer league being shown on tv.
The owners are just using MLS as a vehicle to have their hands in the overall tv rights of the country. That’s why so many of them can’t be bothered to do shite
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:12 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Yet multiple posters say it lol
It’s a joke when we use it on here
Ah got it
My bad baw
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:12 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Let’s sure hope so
I think they’ll be alright
MLS ain’t folding anytime soon
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:22 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Nah it won’t like we have said before it’s stuck in a tough spot
It needs to raise the quality of play to be a desirable product domestically and abroad
But it’s got a bunch of rules in place that hinder it and of course the lack of profits hurt
Clubs like Atlanta that would absolutely crush it if they were allowed to operate independently are hamstrung by the MLS model
LINK
You should give this a read
It needs to raise the quality of play to be a desirable product domestically and abroad
But it’s got a bunch of rules in place that hinder it and of course the lack of profits hurt
Clubs like Atlanta that would absolutely crush it if they were allowed to operate independently are hamstrung by the MLS model
LINK
You should give this a read
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The implications of shared revenue between the MLS oversight body and the investor-operated clubs are significant. For instance, in 2019 Atlanta United had a drastically higher average attendance per match of 52,510 than Chicago Fire’s average attendance of 12,324.[2] These statistics imply that 30% of Atlanta’s ticket sales is a larger sum than 30% of Chicago Fire’s ticket sales, yet these two clubs share the same dollar amount that is recycled through MLS and redistributed. This recycling of profits, or sharing the wealth, is socialistic. MLS is committed to the health of its body, not strengthening its individual parts. Although this strategy does protect the new, weaker teams, it restricts growth for the strongest by sharing revenue that could potentially be reinvested into the team, not the league.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:33 pm to StraightCashHomey21
England does revenue sharing for their TV deal but I agree doing sharing for gate income is stupid.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:59 pm to cwil177
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England does revenue sharing for their TV deal but I agree doing sharing for gate income is stupid.
Completely apples to oranges
You do realize tv revenue per club in the EPL is based on how many times you are on Sky and BT. Some teams get way more than others. Bc they are having a good season they get more non 3pm Saturday matches. They are get a base amount of money then the distribution varies. They call them facility fees
It rewards you for putting out a competitive product and team
MLS on the other hand everyone gets the same amount no matter how good or bad they are.
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The League's central revenues are distributed to clubs in the following manner: UK broadcast revenues 50 per cent equally shared; 25 per cent shared based on how often a club’s matches are broadcast in the UK (known as "Facility Fees"); 25 per cent shared based on where a club finish in the league table (known as "Merit Payments") Central Commercial revenues: Equally shared by clubs International broadcasting revenues: Equally shared by clubs
LINK
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 5:18 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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MLS on the other hand everyone gets the same amount no matter how good or bad they are.
Isn’t that how all US sports are done though?
Posted on 2/15/21 at 5:27 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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Isn’t that how all US sports are done though?
Yes and teams make more with local deals, which MLS is trying to move away from
Problem is US sports can do this bc NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL have no competition from other leagues in their respective sports
MLS is fighting a global battle with one hand tied behind its back
Posted on 2/15/21 at 5:55 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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which MLS is trying to move away from
Are they?
I think it’s more that the RSNs don’t wanna give them a great deal since they do so bad
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“MLS does not pull huge ratings on the local level,” explained Leff. “This is not the Major League Baseball RSN’s (Regional Sports Networks) here. So, while you have this media agreement coming up in 2023 as you mentioned I’m not sure there’s a pot of gold on the other side of the rainbow here.”
LINK
In NY, no one gives a frick about either team, they also compete with other sports teams during those seasons which hold rights on those channels
MSG, YES, SNY.
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MLS is fighting a global battle with one hand tied behind its back
MLS is never going to catch those leagues in Europe
So they’re night fighting anything, they need to try and find viewers in the United States first
Yea we know the EPL is a more popular league.
Of course it is, no one is saying that. The MLS doesn’t have to compete with it, especially since the latest game over there is on here at 2:45
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:09 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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I think it’s more that the RSNs don’t wanna give them a great deal since they do so bad
No one is really
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MLS is never going to catch those leagues in Europe
So they’re night fighting anything, they need to try and find viewers in the United States first
Yea we know the EPL is a more popular league.
Of course it is, no one is saying that. The MLS doesn’t have to compete with it, especially since the latest game over there is on here at 2:45
In terms of getting fans, MLS most certainly competes with the EPL
Garber said he wants MLS to be a top five league by 2022 that was his own mission plan and statement. To do that you have to do business like the big boys.
But the way the league does business is nothing like to make it a top league in the world. It runs more like a development league that sells. Nothing wrong with that but you can’t have it both ways. It’s a top league or it’s one that is there to produce for the big boys.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:15 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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In terms of getting fans, MLS most certainly competes with the EPL
No one is not watching the MLS because “they choose the EPL over it”
You can watch both, but people in the United States don’t. And that’s not because the EPL is so much better
frick even in the US in the grand scheme of things EPL ratings don’t do that great, they average less than 500k viewers
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Garber said he wants MLS to be a top five league by 2022 that was his own mission plan and statement. Do do that you have to do business like the big boys.
He’s lying
The league is less than 30 years old, they’re not going to jump any of the big 6
Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:34 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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No one is not watching the MLS because “they choose the EPL over it”
You can watch both, but people in the United States don’t. And that’s not because the EPL is so much better
frick even in the US in the grand scheme of things EPL ratings don’t do that great, they average less than 500k viewers
Well yea 9am matches are most likely not gonna get over a million views
Yet even in these time slots it beats MLS who has more optimal viewing times
LigaMX also does pretty decent ratings wise in the US
Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:52 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Well yea 9am matches are most likely not gonna get over a million views
10am, but they still had some games with a million
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Yet even in these time slots it beats MLS who has more optimal viewing times
But this has nothing to do with the EPL vs MLS
MLS has its own problems first and they’re not going to compete with the EPL, so there’s no reason to be comparing them
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LigaMX also does pretty decent ratings wise in the US
Why there’s been talks of a merger
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