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Posted on 11/24/13 at 2:01 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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We were outplayed for most of the match imo.
Agreed. The first and last 15 we got skull dragged through the pitch.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 3:15 pm to BleedPurpleGold
The December(+1) Death March kicks off in just a few days. Liverpool will be playing 8 games over 32 days and it could completely shape our January transfer window and the remainder of the season.
I broke the 8 games out in the smaller segments and wanted to get your thoughts on how you think we will perform.
Dec. 1 Hull (A)
Dec. 4 Norwich (H)
Dec. 7 West Ham (H)
I think it is imperative that we get 9 points off this 1st group. If we don't it could be a long miserable month sliding down the table.
Dec. 15 Spurs (A)
Dec. 21 Cardiff (H)
Obviously I would love to take 6 off these 2 games but I think 4 would leave us in a strong position for the final kick.
Dec. 26 Man City (A)
Dec. 29 Chelsea (A)
Jan. 1 Hull (H)
The home stretch will be brutal. Not looking forward to this at all. Anything over 3 points will be a fantastic effort after the previous 5 games. I am worried though that we could enter this stretch nicked up or dead on our feet and close with 1 point out of these three.
I broke the 8 games out in the smaller segments and wanted to get your thoughts on how you think we will perform.
Dec. 1 Hull (A)
Dec. 4 Norwich (H)
Dec. 7 West Ham (H)
I think it is imperative that we get 9 points off this 1st group. If we don't it could be a long miserable month sliding down the table.
Dec. 15 Spurs (A)
Dec. 21 Cardiff (H)
Obviously I would love to take 6 off these 2 games but I think 4 would leave us in a strong position for the final kick.
Dec. 26 Man City (A)
Dec. 29 Chelsea (A)
Jan. 1 Hull (H)
The home stretch will be brutal. Not looking forward to this at all. Anything over 3 points will be a fantastic effort after the previous 5 games. I am worried though that we could enter this stretch nicked up or dead on our feet and close with 1 point out of these three.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 3:27 pm to Waffle House
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Dec. 4 Norwich (H)
Anyone know the best place in Las Vegas to watch this?
Posted on 11/26/13 at 3:30 pm to Waffle House
I like your analysis... I think its spot on..
Posted on 11/26/13 at 4:04 pm to Waffle House
Dec. 1 Hull (A) = 3
Dec. 4 Norwich (H) = 3
Dec. 7 West Ham (H) = 3
Dec. 15 Spurs (A) = 1
Dec. 21 Cardiff (H) = 3
Dec. 26 Man City (A) = 0
Dec. 29 Chelsea (A) = 0
Jan. 1 Hull (H) = 3
I think we get 16/24 points through this strech, plus or minus a couple.
Given that we are on 24 points currently then adding these that'll leave us at 40 points at the halfway mark.
I think this will put us at an interesting position for a late season push to retain our top four finish.
YNWA
Dec. 4 Norwich (H) = 3
Dec. 7 West Ham (H) = 3
Dec. 15 Spurs (A) = 1
Dec. 21 Cardiff (H) = 3
Dec. 26 Man City (A) = 0
Dec. 29 Chelsea (A) = 0
Jan. 1 Hull (H) = 3
I think we get 16/24 points through this strech, plus or minus a couple.
Given that we are on 24 points currently then adding these that'll leave us at 40 points at the halfway mark.
I think this will put us at an interesting position for a late season push to retain our top four finish.
YNWA
Posted on 11/26/13 at 5:54 pm to Waffle House
Agree with you. 16 or more points from that stretch and I'll be reasonably happy, and hopefully we are at least competitive against City and Chelsea on their ground.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 7:41 pm to Waffle House
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Dec. 1 Hull (A)
Dec. 4 Norwich (H)
Dec. 7 West Ham (H)
9 points. There is no excuse.
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Dec. 15 Spurs (A)
Dec. 21 Cardiff (H)
I've watched a good bit of Cardiff and they are an interesting side. When they're on, they're flying. If Spurs continue this implosion then we should draw. That defense is too good to allow anything remotely close to what happened against City.
I'm going with 4 points.
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Dec. 26 Man City (A)
Dec. 29 Chelsea (A)
Jan. 1 Hull (H)
Agree with 3 points, though I could see us eeking out a draw at Stamford Bridge. For now I'm going to say 3 though.
Sitting on 40 halfway through is damned good shape. To put it in perspective the following is a list of the final point cumulation of the 4th place teams over the past few years:
2008-2009: Arsenal - 72
2009-2010: Spurs - 70
2010-2011: Arsenal - 68
2011-2012: Spurs - 69
2012-2013: Arsenal - 73
As you can see, 16 would put us slightly above pace to meet the average point total of the last 5 playoff spot qualifiers, which is 70.4. With some new signings in January we SHOULD end around 80, if my predictions above are correct, and we grab as many points in the second half as the first half of the season. We would be sitting sweet.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 7:45 pm to BleedPurpleGold
We also got hope ManUre keep up their inconsistency under Moyes and hope Tottenham's new guys don't all settle in and gel at once...
Also, I really hope FSG sees the need to reinforce (meaning not nickle and dime players), with LB becoming a big priority in Jan. now...
Also, I really hope FSG sees the need to reinforce (meaning not nickle and dime players), with LB becoming a big priority in Jan. now...
Posted on 11/26/13 at 7:48 pm to Waffle House
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The December(+1) Death March kicks off in just a few days
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Dec. 1 Hull (A)
Dec. 4 Norwich (H)
Dec. 7 West Ham (H)
How is that a death march? Arsenal plays at Napoli and Man City in the same time frame.
This post was edited on 11/26/13 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 11/26/13 at 7:53 pm to glassman
I think he's just talking about the number of games in the compact timeframe... with the Chelski & Citeh away games back to back to close it out...
Posted on 11/26/13 at 7:56 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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Sitting on 40 halfway through is damned good shape
20 matches=halfway
#LiverpoolMath
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:02 pm to Friend of OBUDan
20/38 is pretty much half way. I didn't realize I needed to explain to the rest of the people that have been following the sport for years that I was speaking in generalities.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:06 pm to Friend of OBUDan
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20 matches=halfway
#LiverpoolMath
This is a fantastic contribution to this thread. You should post here more often.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:15 pm to BleedPurpleGold
I was just havin' fun. didn't realize this was the no fun zone. I'm not outchea posting gifs of ex-players scoring against Liverpool or anything #staresatBeast
sorry that my one post is the only pointless one in this 3000+ post thread :/
sorry that my one post is the only pointless one in this 3000+ post thread :/
Posted on 11/26/13 at 8:18 pm to Friend of OBUDan
Fun is for the weak and the incontinent. This thread is a war zone.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 9:44 am to BleedPurpleGold
The remaining fixtures for Liverpool after the holiday break for those interested.
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Jan 1 ... Liverpool v Hull City ... (Anfield)
Jan 12 ... Stoke City v Liverpool ... (Britannia Stadium)
Jan 18 ... Liverpool v Aston Villa ... (Anfield)
Jan 28 ... Liverpool v Everton ... (Anfield)
Feb 1 ... West Bromwich Albion v Liverpool ... (The Hawthorns)
Feb 8 ... Liverpool v Arsenal ... (Anfield)
Feb 12 ... Fulham v Liverpool ... (Craven Cottage)
Feb 22 ... Liverpool v Swansea City ... (Anfield)
Mar 1 ... Southampton v Liverpool ... (The Friends Provident St Mary's Stadium)
Mar 8 ... Liverpool v Sunderland ... (Anfield)
Mar 15 ... Manchester United v Liverpool ... (Old Trafford)
Mar 22 ... Cardiff City v Liverpool ... (Cardiff City Stadium)
Mar 29 ... Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur ... (Anfield)
Apr 5 ... West Ham United v Liverpool ... (Upton Park)
Apr 12 ... Liverpool v Manchester City ... (Anfield)
Apr 19 ... Norwich City v Liverpool ... (Carrow Road)
Apr 26 ... Liverpool v Chelsea ... (Anfield)
May 3 ... Crystal Palace v Liverpool ... (Selhurst Park)
May 11 ... Liverpool v Newcastle United ... (Anfield)
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Looking at this part of the fixture list I see one thing that stands out to me ... we get to play a lot of our tougher competition at home.
In saying that, I believe that puts us at better odds to see positive results from these matches and then couple this with performing well against the teams that we should beat ... we could be setup very nicely.
So looking at these upcoming matches there is a total of 57 points available (If my math is correct) and with me looking at it I think we should be able to pull 45/57 points in a best case scenario(or at least doing what needs to be done).
Here are the points picked up in accordance to the schedule above:
As you can see I didn't pick us to lose a match but I know that we will drop a few in that stretch, that's why I said it was a best case scenario. But, if you were to add these 45 to the 37 total points we believe we would be at before the January 1st.
That would put our season total at 82.
Here are the past five years top five teams and point totals:
The way I see it is we continue to win against the clubs we should win against and have a good run of form at home in this second half of the season we will be set up perfectly for a top four finish and even possibly title contention (pipe dream, but still there).
The future is BRIGHT ... YNWA
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Jan 1 ... Liverpool v Hull City ... (Anfield)
Jan 12 ... Stoke City v Liverpool ... (Britannia Stadium)
Jan 18 ... Liverpool v Aston Villa ... (Anfield)
Jan 28 ... Liverpool v Everton ... (Anfield)
Feb 1 ... West Bromwich Albion v Liverpool ... (The Hawthorns)
Feb 8 ... Liverpool v Arsenal ... (Anfield)
Feb 12 ... Fulham v Liverpool ... (Craven Cottage)
Feb 22 ... Liverpool v Swansea City ... (Anfield)
Mar 1 ... Southampton v Liverpool ... (The Friends Provident St Mary's Stadium)
Mar 8 ... Liverpool v Sunderland ... (Anfield)
Mar 15 ... Manchester United v Liverpool ... (Old Trafford)
Mar 22 ... Cardiff City v Liverpool ... (Cardiff City Stadium)
Mar 29 ... Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur ... (Anfield)
Apr 5 ... West Ham United v Liverpool ... (Upton Park)
Apr 12 ... Liverpool v Manchester City ... (Anfield)
Apr 19 ... Norwich City v Liverpool ... (Carrow Road)
Apr 26 ... Liverpool v Chelsea ... (Anfield)
May 3 ... Crystal Palace v Liverpool ... (Selhurst Park)
May 11 ... Liverpool v Newcastle United ... (Anfield)
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Looking at this part of the fixture list I see one thing that stands out to me ... we get to play a lot of our tougher competition at home.
quote:
Aston Villa
Everton
Arsenal
Tottenham
Manchester City
Chelsea
Newcastle
In saying that, I believe that puts us at better odds to see positive results from these matches and then couple this with performing well against the teams that we should beat ... we could be setup very nicely.
So looking at these upcoming matches there is a total of 57 points available (If my math is correct) and with me looking at it I think we should be able to pull 45/57 points in a best case scenario(or at least doing what needs to be done).
Here are the points picked up in accordance to the schedule above:
quote:
3-1-3-1-3-1-3-3-1-3-3-3-3-1-1-3-3-3-3
As you can see I didn't pick us to lose a match but I know that we will drop a few in that stretch, that's why I said it was a best case scenario. But, if you were to add these 45 to the 37 total points we believe we would be at before the January 1st.
That would put our season total at 82.
Here are the past five years top five teams and point totals:
quote:
2012/13
(1) Manchester United 89
(2) Manchester City 78
(3) Chelsea 75
(4) Arsenal 73
(5) Tottenham Hotspur 72
quote:
2011/12
(1) Manchester City 89
(2) Manchester United 89
(3) Arsenal 70
(4) Tottenham Hotspur 69
(5) Newcastle United 65
quote:
2010/11
(1) Manchester United 80
(2) Chelsea 71
(3) Manchester City 71
(4) Arsenal 68
(5) Tottenham Hotspur 62
quote:
2009/10
(1) Chelsea 86
(2) Manchester United 85
(3) Arsenal 75
(4) Tottenham Hotspur 70
(5) Manchester City 67
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2008/09
(1) Manchester United 90
(2) Liverpool 86
(3) Chelsea 83
(4) Arsenal 72
(5) Everton 63
The way I see it is we continue to win against the clubs we should win against and have a good run of form at home in this second half of the season we will be set up perfectly for a top four finish and even possibly title contention (pipe dream, but still there).
The future is BRIGHT ... YNWA
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:11 am to McRebel42
Even in a more realistic sense, assuming we drop 10 points from your ideal scenario in defeats along the way, that's still 72. We're on pace, we just need a strong window. No bullshite squad depth. We have one competition and one competition only that matters. ADD STARTING PLAYERS BRENDAN.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:15 am to McRebel42
quote:
2008/09
(1) Manchester United 90
(2) Liverpool 86
:wah: That was our year, dammit!! dropping points to the bottom feeders killed us...
Masch, Xabi and Stevie... what a midfield
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