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Posted on 5/29/12 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 5/29/12 at 8:46 pm to
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Hoping that Villa hire whichever one loses out.


Martinez already turned Villa down once, and Villa was in better shape then.
Posted by IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 10:21 am to
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BBC Sport ?@BBCSport Brendan Rodgers has signed a three-year contract to become the new manager of Liverpool Football Club, confirms @BenSmithBBC #lfc
Posted by Meursault
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 10:46 am to
Ok, so now someone convince me why Rodgers is the right guy for the job. I've already read the good tactical arguments for AVB and Martinez. Now it's time to do the same for Rodgers.

Also, I hear Lamps is out of Euros, and Henderson will be replacing him.
Posted by BobbyGoulet
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 10:54 am to
good for Hendo, hope he takes advantage of the opportunity


TFTC posted an article on the last page


and i found this on another site

WARNING: too long, almost didn't read


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Philosophy

When Kenny Dalglish returned to Liverpool as manager one of the things that fans were most excited about was the idea that the pass and move style of football that was such a big part of the success in the past would return to the club. Rodgers is the sort of manager who plays the type of football that Liverpool fans love to watch. His team play a fantastic style of football based on making the ball do the work when you have it which allows you to have more energy to get it back when you don’t have it.

Rodgers is on a crusade to rid the world of long ball football. He believes that if you keep the ball, and pass it well, you win football matches. Here’s an excerpt from an article in the Guardian earlier this month which is well worth reading.


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”I like teams to control and dominate the ball, so the players are hungry for the ball,” Rodgers says. “You’ll see in some of our exercises this morning, a lot of our work is around the transition and getting the ball back very quickly. Because I believe if you give a bad player time, he can play. If you give a good player time, he can kill you. So our emphasis is based around our positioning both with and without the ball. And for us, when we press well, we pass well.”

Winning the ball back quickly and high up the pitch was a key feature of Barcelona’s approach under Pep Guardiola and, as Rodgers explains, is much more sophisticated than it may appear. “You cannot go on your own,” he says. “You work on zonal pressure, so that when it is in your zone, you have the capacity to press. That ability to press immediately, within five or six seconds to get the ball, is important. But you also have to understand when you can’t and what the triggers are then to go for it again because you can’t run about like a madman.

“It’s decision-making and intelligence. And this was always the thing with the British player, they were always deemed never to be intelligent, not to have good decision-making skills but could fight like hell for the ball. I believe they have all of the [attributes] and, if you can structure that, then you can have real, effective results.”

That’s very much the same idea that the Liverpool teams which dominated played under. It’s something that Liverpool fans can relate to.

Rodgers team sets up as a 4-2-3-1 when they don’t have the ball, but when they are in possession they take more of 3-4-3 formation with the fullbacks pushing forward, the central defenders moving ten yards in either direction, Leon Britton dropping back between them, Joe Allen and Sigurdsson as dual attacking midfielders, and Nathan Dyer and Scott Sinclair pushing forward either side of Danny Graham. That 3-4-3 variation is something that Rodgers has been doing at Swansea for two years without people falling over themselves to credit him, instead preferring to credit Roberto Martinez for apparently re-inventing the wheel by taking on a 3-4-3 in desperate times at Wigan.

Rodgers style of football is one that works very well and translates well to all levels. While Arsene Wenger amongst others have made note of Swansea “not being brave” and often “not doing much with the ball”. that’s quite short-sighted and ignores the fact that for the most part, that Swansea team was made up of players who had never played in the Premier League before, yet managed to outplay many of the best teams in the country, and finish comfortably in mid-table without ever looking likely to become entrenched in a relation battle. With a higher calibre of players, Rodgers style of play would be more effective and more difficult to contain.

Against teams that “park the bus”, rather than try to bludgeon them into submission as Liverpool attempted to do last season and in previous seasons, it’s a more measured approach aimed at creating chances rather than forcing chances. One of Liverpool’s big problems last season was that while they had huge amounts of shots on goal, a lot of them were not clear chances. Luis Suarez, for example, was often guilty of trying to do too much because his team-mates weren’t able to create clear chances for him. With Rodgers more patient style of build up, and his creative style of passing football, that should not be an issue.

Against the higher calibre of teams, Rodgers’ style of play is suffocating. He likes to starve the opposition of the ball, and then force them into mistakes when they do have the ball. That high pressing style is something Rafa Benitez was noted for during his time at Valencia and Liverpool but his sides were never as good at keeping possession as Swansea are. Rodgers believes in tactical discipline, mixed with creative attacking play. It’s the perfect blend when correctly put into practice.

Preparation

In my opinion, one of the reasons Liverpool struggled last season was a lack of preparation for matches against teams outside the top four. Far too often it just seemed that Liverpool went into matches with the mindset that they should just be walking through their opponents because “We are Liverpool, and they’re not”. In the matches against United, City and Chelsea, Liverpool came out with clever tactics and a set gameplan. In matches against the likes of Swansea, Sunderland and others, they did not. And it cost them.

Rodgers is noted for his meticulous preparation for both training and each individual matches. This again is something he learned working under Mourinho, but a lot of what he learned came from a certain Andre Villas-Boas who, depending on who you believe, is either in the running for the job or has been ruled out/ruled himself out. Rodgers helped Villas-Boas in the scouting of future Chelsea opponents and preparing reports for Mourinho who would then adjust his tactics accordingly. Rodgers operates in a similar way, having his assistants prepare reports as per his instructions and then tailoring tactics and training accordingly.

He also puts a large amount of time and effort into preparing his training program in order to make sure players don’t go stale by doing the same things day after day. His players look forward to going to training because he puts in that time and effort and makes sure they while they work hard and are constantly learning and improving, they’re also having fun.
Posted by Meursault
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 10:58 am to
Awesome! Thanks to both of you
Posted by tsmi136
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 11:02 am to
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Rodgers is on a crusade to rid the world of long ball football. He believes that if you keep the ball, and pass it well, you win football matches


So does this mean Carragher is gone?
Posted by BobbyGoulet
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
3779 posts
Posted on 5/30/12 at 11:29 am to
LINK

link to the whole article; i just pulled out some excerpts in the last post

really interesting read. the more i read about him, the more i like him
Posted by BobbyGoulet
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 12:44 pm to
stevie's b-day is today

LINK of all of his goals in a pool shirt, and some for england



This post was edited on 5/30/12 at 12:45 pm
Posted by BobLoblaw
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 2:51 pm to
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Martinez already turned Villa down once, and Villa was in better shape then.


No. He turned down an interview for the Villa job. Dave Whelan is very good at spin.
Posted by TFTC
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 3:04 pm to
I didnt realize Rodgers had a relationship with LVG... Hopefully, he comes aboard too and helps us recruit some players... gonna be an interesting summer! YNWA!
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 5:09 pm to
One of the coolest quotes ever. Definitely going into my sig as soon as I get a chance.
Posted by LfcSU3520
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 7:38 pm to
I don't know about you guys, but I'm happier than shite with Rodgers. Exactly the style I love watching and I think it's 100% what Liverpool needs to be doing.

All the misery of last season is gone for me now. Can't wait for next year.
Posted by Meursault
Member since Sep 2003
25261 posts
Posted on 5/30/12 at 8:06 pm to
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All the misery of last season is gone for me now. Can't wait for next year.


Posted by Cash
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:35 pm to
A lot of chatter that Gylfi Sigurdsson ends up at Liverpool now. He has neither taken his medical nor agreed to wages with Swansea yet.
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 10:53 pm to
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Ok, so now someone convince me why Rodgers is the right guy for the job.


He got 11th in the EPL with a fricking Welsh team.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
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Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 12:44 am to
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He got 11th in the EPL with a fricking Welsh team.





Well my list is out the window now that its over. 100% behind him and looking forward to actually beating teams in the middle/bottom of the table.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37634 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 10:02 pm to
So what would you think if you went into a comma around Aug/Sept or so and woke up today and were told Carroll, Henderson and Downing all made the England Euro squad?


Great signings!
Those CL Wednesdays will be fun next season!
King Kenny sure can develop young talent!
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 10:05 pm to
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Carroll, Henderson and Downing


My how far the English have fallen.
Posted by Cash
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Member since Feb 2005
37634 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 10:19 pm to
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My how far the English have fallen.



I expect Hodgson to call up Konchesky any day now.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37634 posts
Posted on 5/31/12 at 10:23 pm to
Anfield redevelopment

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Liverpool, having decided on Brendan Rodgers as their manager, are expected to announce within weeks they intend to stay at Anfield, not build their long-planned new stadium on Stanley Park. Under plans drawn up by Liverpool city council and revealed to local residents, houses would be demolished to enable the club to expand Anfield's main stand.
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