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re: Liverpool 2025/2026: RIP Diogo! Mo Salah and Andy Robertson Farewell Tour

Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:31 am to
Posted by 5 Deep
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:31 am to
So ready for this season to be over
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:56 am to
Slot just said Rio said he needed to come out.
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:29 am to
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So ready for this season to be over


Its not even worth analyzing, complaining or anything at this point... I watch the matches, but dont look forward to them...

I just hope we limp into UCL next season, replace Slot and some of these soft fricking players we have... We have to harden up the middle of the pitch...
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 9:30 am
Posted by TexasTiger6777
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:28 am to
Which player in the middle of the pitch is soft? Who goes this summer?
Posted by 5 Deep
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:39 am to
Wouldn’t be shocked if we sold Macca (and Jones sounds like he’s gone)


So signing 2 wingers and a proper defensive mid?

That won’t be cheap. And hard to imagine us spending 200m+ again
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:52 am to
I hope we can get Barcola.
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:53 am to
Grav is about as soft a #6 that you'll find... He has decent qualities as a #8, but he's not a DM..

While Alexis isn't soft, he is slow and has lost something this season... I think this summer is the opportune time to sell and get value for him...

Honestly, what we need exactly depends on who the manager is and how he intends to set the team up...

I really think we have missed TAA's passing from deep and would love Wharton.. but I think we'd need some steel next to him...
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 10:54 am
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:01 am to
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I think we'd need some steel next to him


Tchouameni may come available with that Fede bust up?? Alexis going the other way??

Ive seen we've been linked to a couple of younger DMs from the continent.. Camara and Sangare... definitely would be the cheaper options, but Ive never seen one minute of Sangare play..
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 11:02 am
Posted by 5 Deep
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:47 pm to
Diomande prob gonna cost 80m which means the rest of our summer spending will have to be split between the rest


I’d like Wharton too but hard to see us buying him, Diomande, and another winger
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:17 pm to
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Ornstein also said everything he hears is that we are sticking with Slot



Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:39 pm to
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Diomande prob gonna cost 80m which means the rest of our summer spending will have to be split between the rest

I’d like Wharton too but hard to see us buying him, Diomande, and another winger
Don’t forget about player sales and Salah’s salary coming off the books.

I think they could make several big signings.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:51 pm to
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I just hope we limp into UCL next season, replace Slot
I honestly don’t think Slot is the problem. He had no pace on the wings, injuries and depth issues at the forward spot, decimated at right back, etc.

The team was already incomplete and in a transition phase going into the season and it was only amplified by injuries.

Liverpool made some splashy signings but the squad was pretty thin and didn’t give Slot much to work with.

I think fans had unrealistic expectations after the big signings. I feel this is a transition period. The older players are aging out and need to be replaced. TAA left, Salah and Robertson are leaving, VVD eventually, Alisson appears on the way out, Diaz was sold, Jota passed, etc. This is a team that is transitioning to a new squad of young players that are going to compete for the next decade. This season was always going to be difficult. If people had the proper context going into the season, I think they’d have more patience with Slot.

But many were looking to repeat as PL champions and win the CL. It was just wildly unfair expectations looking back on it. Those splashy signings had people talking crazy.


But I’m optimistic about next season and the future. This season made it clear where upgrades are needed. Young promising CBs coming in with Leoni coming back from injury and Jacquet. Hopefully upgrade on the wings. Rio coming in with more experience. A healthy Isak with a full summer of preparation. Year two of Wirtz who is settled in and will be ready to hit the ground running. Szoboszlai coming off a breakout year. And hopefully make some other upgrades whether a CDM or depth at RB. The one thing I’m concerned about is Ekitike. He was so good this season and that’s a terrible injury. I hope when he comes back he can be the same player he was. But other than that, there’s a lot to be optimistic about.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 9:00 pm
Posted by TexasTiger6777
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:21 pm to
I agree with all of this.

But if they miss out on UCL, I think the fans will force the issue to have Slot sacked.
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:38 pm to
Probably right about that. There were times this year that the emotional side of my brain wanted Slot sacked. But the logical side of my brain thinks he deserves more time with a proper squad.
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:47 pm to
I agree that its not all Slots doing, but he's shown he can't deal with it and doesnt have any answers... this slide started at the end of last season, after the title was won...

Put it this way.. I dont think you would have seen this under Klopp... the effort at the weekend was

We need someone who can bring that level of intensity back
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 6:34 am to
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But if they miss out on UCL


Why do people keep saying this?
It’s highly unlikely.
Bournemouth has to win against City today just to have a snowballs chance in hell at jumping us
Posted by TexasTiger6777
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 7:00 am to
Bournemouth doesn’t play City today, but I understand your point.

I agree that it is highly unlikely that Liverpool miss out, but we have been anything but consistent in the league this year.

City are likely to beat Bournemouth next week, but I also thought they would roll Everton last week and they tied at the death.

After everything that has gone down this season, I won’t feel confident about making UCL until we have statistically done it.
This post was edited on 5/13/26 at 7:05 am
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 7:34 am to
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I agree that its not all Slots doing, but he's shown he can't deal with it and doesnt have any answers... this slide started at the end of last season, after the title was won...

Put it this way.. I dont think you would have seen this under Klopp... the effort at the weekend was

We need someone who can bring that level of intensity back
Well if you want Klopp-style football, that would be Iraola.

People keep talking about Xabi Alonso, but his style is so different. His setup is so different from what Liverpool has done. It wouldn’t be a seamless transition. It would be like starting over again with all the same growing pains going on right now.

I’m okay with giving Slot this next season with a proper squad. And if people want a return of Klopp-style football, they should be looking at Iraola.

But Slot didn’t have a chance this year. All the top clubs have top wingers. Even Liverpool last season had Salah at his best and Diaz. This year they had old Salah and slow and predictable Gakpo. Get Slot what he needs. Get him some wingers. Get him a CDM. This season was rough, but I think Slot deserves a shot with a proper squad.
This post was edited on 5/13/26 at 7:42 am
Posted by DByrd2
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:53 am to
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I honestly don’t think Slot is the problem. He had no pace on the wings, injuries and depth issues at the forward spot, decimated at right back, etc.

The team was already incomplete and in a transition phase going into the season and it was only amplified by injuries.

Liverpool made some splashy signings but the squad was pretty thin and didn’t give Slot much to work with.


I’ll give you the injuries. It’s tough for any manager to be successful given how hard we were hit this year.

That said, the mentality on the squad is unacceptable. It’s been like that since late last season. It started with the falling out between Salah and Slot. The work ethic and standard of effort have changed since Slot came in, and you better believe Salah called it out in private before the public falling out.

The revolving door in midfield, the square peg/round hole game with Gakpo constantly, the walking in-game when the need to chase the goal is on… all of that starts with the mentality that the manager instills by putting his players in a position to succeed. Slot has failed on that front in epic fashion.

Speaking of Salah (and standards), having a player like him on the wing while simultaneously keeping a spark plug on the opposite wing benched is inexcusable if you want to argue a lack of pace.

This squad has had the players to be top four all along. There aren’t many on the squad that weren’t here last year. The midfield is in shambles, and entire groups of players don’t cave in unless their mentality / confidence is shaken, and the manager is responsible for putting them in successful situations to keep that mentality at a high.

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I think fans had unrealistic expectations after the big signings. I feel this is a transition period. The older players are aging out and need to be replaced. TAA left, Salah and Robertson are leaving, VVD eventually, Alisson appears on the way out, Diaz was sold, Jota passed, etc. This is a team that is transitioning to a new squad of young players that are going to compete for the next decade. This season was always going to be difficult. If people had the proper context going into the season, I think they’d have more patience with Slot.


I can get on board with the unrealistic expectations when it comes to the signings, but not the overall product. Transition period or no, the effort should be there. There should be confidence in the system and confidence to push through. That’s what has always been a trademark at Liverpool. The last time I remember seeing this kind of “poor us, we’re trying” was under Brendan Rogers.

Our defending has not improved all season. The center backs are completely exposed every single match, and there has been relatively little adjustment to fix it in the back end. If we are going to claim injuries and transition periods, the tactics need to adjust to reflect and address the glaring weaknesses. We have not seen that happen.

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But I’m optimistic about next season and the future. This season made it clear where upgrades are needed. Young promising CBs coming in with Leoni coming back from injury and Jacquet. Hopefully upgrade on the wings. Rio coming in with more experience. A healthy Isak with a full summer of preparation. Year two of Wirtz who is settled in and will be ready to hit the ground running. Szoboszlai coming off a breakout year. And hopefully make some other upgrades whether a CDM or depth at RB. The one thing I’m concerned about is Ekitike. He was so good this season and that’s a terrible injury. I hope when he comes back he can be the same player he was. But other than that, there’s a lot to be optimistic about.


I can agree with the optimism regarding knowing what we need to address in the summer in terms of player personnel. I just struggle with the idea that the mentality will improve if the manager doesn’t change what is going on out there on the pitch. You can have all the players you want, but if you can’t adjust either in-game or week-over-week, then that isn’t on the players.

I’m hoping for the best. I just don’t have a ton of patience for a lack of resolve in the players, and even less so coming off a title season.

It starts with the manager.

There is no excuse for being in the last month of the PL with a squad like we have and wondering if we will be in the Champions League.

If we miss out on the CL, the transition just got significantly longer. The best players don’t move from other CL squads to play in the Europa League.

I wish we had made a change when alarm bells rang with Salah and Slot around Christmas.
Posted by 5 Deep
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:42 am to
Simply put, I just want to look forward to and enjoy watching Liverpool play

Klopp missed out on Champions league finishing 5th in 22/23 season but at no point did we ever not see the vision or know the identity of our team

I don’t care if the manager is Slot, Alonso, Iraola, or whoever. I just want to enjoy it and it’s been over 12 months where I’ve felt like I’ve consistently enjoyed watching us play. So I have major doubts Slot can be that guy




I’m pretty strong in the Slot out crowd, but I will admit that all things equal, he deserves another year. I just think it’s very rare to have an opportunity to bring someone like Xabi or Iraola in, and I’m very worried we’re going to miss it.


Say nothing changes after 2-3 months next season and it’s clear Slot ain’t our guy….then what? We’re dangerously close to entering a period like United has been in post Fergie

This is shaping up to be exactly like the end of the Brendan Rogers era where we keep him while many felt he wasn’t the guy. It was pure luck that an elite coach like Klopp was available after we fired BR midseason and that won’t ever happen again
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