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re: Jim Rome destroying the USMNT on radio right now.....

Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by Sheep
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:09 pm to
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Honestly, no one is forcing you to talk about the game.


To be fair, I don't think we can say that about any national media. Their higher ups may actually be pushing them to talk about it in one way or another.

The opening segment of Sportscenter, that reviewed the day's qualifying action, certainly seemed forced.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:10 pm to
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Then he shouldn't talk about and be so critical. If you say something like we're stupid for being happy about a tie than you better qualify it by saying "I don't know anything about soccer or the qualifying process so I could be wrong." He could have said that too I'm not sure



I am sure he is well aware that a tie helped the US, anyone who has even a vague interest in sports or watches sportscenter knows that. I didn't hear his rant but I agree with it in principle, it is kind of ridiculous to see competitors popping bottles over a tie though. They can be happy they didn't lose but seeing them get so damn excited over a tie just makes them seem amateurish and like they expected to lose. Could you ever picture someone like Michael Jordan dancing around in his underwear because he TIED someone. I am not taking anything away from what the team did and I am not trolling, I am just pointing out that as competitors it would have been awesome if they acted like they had expected to win and were not happy with just a tie.
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:14 pm to
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I am sure he is well aware that a tie helped the US, anyone who has even a vague interest in sports or watches sportscenter knows that. I didn't hear his rant but I agree with it in principle, it is kind of ridiculous to see competitors popping bottles over a tie though. They can be happy they didn't lose but seeing them get so damn excited over a tie just makes them seem amateurish and like they expected to lose. Could you ever picture someone like Michael Jordan dancing around in his underwear because he TIED someone. I am not taking anything away from what the team did and I am not trolling, I am just pointing out that as competitors it would have been awesome if they acted like they had expected to win and were not happy with just a tie.


If we don't have all the injuries and other players taking breaks from the game and an article that just came out about how players are unhappy with the coach, then yeah celebrating to the extent that which they did might be a little over the top. But we had a lot of issues we had to deal with for this match and I think the players' happiness is more about succeeding given the circumstances. It's also a celebration of getting 4 points in the last two games and being 3rd in our hex.
This post was edited on 3/27/13 at 1:15 pm
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:14 pm to
I'm sure MJ would have been happy to accomplish something that his team had not been able to do for 16 years.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:17 pm to
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I'm sure MJ would have been happy to accomplish something that his team had not been able to do for 16 years.



I agree with you, I said they should be happy.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:18 pm to
i feel like a lot of people fail to see the end game of soccer. while you obviously want to win each game, the point is to win the overall competition (or place high enough to advance to the next level), whether it is your league or the WCQ hex. people don't understand that even though we (or any team) tied and didn't actually win the game, they still earned a point, which in the USMNT's case last night is an incredibly valuable and hard to come by point which puts us a lot closer to our ultimate goal of qualifying for the world cup.

obviously ignorance plays a large part in anyone's lack of excitement about last night's result. as a sports talk show host i'd be embarrassed to miss the point so badly.
Posted by etm512
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:22 pm to
Well said
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:24 pm to
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i feel like a lot of people fail to see the end game of soccer. while you obviously want to win each game, the point is to win the overall competition (or place high enough to advance to the next level), whether it is your league or the WCQ hex. people don't understand that even though we (or any team) tied and didn't actually win the game, they still earned a point, which in the USMNT's case last night is an incredibly valuable and hard to come by point which puts us a lot closer to our ultimate goal of qualifying for the world cup.



Kinda like a who cares if you win the battle as long as you win the war thing? That does make sense I guess.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:25 pm to
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They can be happy they didn't lose but seeing them get so damn excited over a tie just makes them seem amateurish and like they expected to lose.

It was a positive result. If a tie would've negatively affected our Hex standings, they wouldn't be celebrating.

When you are expected to lose by a goal or two in a venue that you've had barely any success in...and you prevent them from scoring in their own house...and you stay above them in the standings...that's cause for celebration. You're simplifying it too much.

People are seeing "They're happy over a tie, and that means there a bunch of uncompetitive pussies."
This post was edited on 3/27/13 at 1:26 pm
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
13491 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:31 pm to
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i feel like a lot of people fail to see the end game of soccer. while you obviously want to win each game, the point is to win the overall competition (or place high enough to advance to the next level), whether it is your league or the WCQ hex. people don't understand that even though we (or any team) tied and didn't actually win the game, they still earned a point, which in the USMNT's case last night is an incredibly valuable and hard to come by point which puts us a lot closer to our ultimate goal of qualifying for the world cup.


That's how I explain soccer to friends that don't get the whole tie thing. Instead of looking at each game from an American view that you need to win everyday, you look at each game as a period of the season long game. I might be watching a Saints game where they are down by 14 in the second quarter. I'll think, we need to cut it to 7 at the half, then we'll be ok. It's the same thing in soccer. The viewpoint is just more for the overall than the one game.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:32 pm to
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People are seeing "They're happy over a tie, and that means there a bunch of uncompetitive pussies."


They can be happy but I do think celebratory locker room pics etc... are over the top.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:37 pm to
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They can be happy but I do think celebratory locker room pics etc... are over the top.


why does that matter to you? if the team feels like they did well and got a good result together, then let them celebrate as they want. hopefully they can parlay the confidence they gained last night into a successful qualifying campaign. i certainly wouldn't want to tell them to tone down a celebration after such a rare result at that stadium. especially if they are able to maintain focus and continue to gel and improve as a squad.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:39 pm to
Rome is a clown.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:49 pm to
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I do think celebratory locker room pics etc... are over the top.

It was a positive result for our qualifying process.

It has only happened twice.

Just because it ended in a tie doesn't mean that it's not worth celebrating, especially after most of those guys busted their tails on defense for 90+ minutes to get the U.S. a point.

Do you not think the result was worth celebrating?
This post was edited on 3/27/13 at 1:51 pm
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:52 pm to
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why does that matter to you?


Because to me it shows a lack of aspiration. I'm sure you'll disagree which is fine but I don't know you can't at least understand that.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
13491 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:53 pm to
Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen a picture like the one from the win at Azteca where everyone was holding up drinks and looked celebratory. The only pic I saw was a few of the players with their arms around each other smiling. The team varies so much under Klinsman, I don't really blame them for wanting to document their time on the USMNT while they can.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:54 pm to
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Do you not think the result was worth celebrating?


Like I said in another thread, sure, high five, shake hands, and congratulate each other and get out of town with your point. Celebratory team pictures in the locker room and some of the other pictures and comments I've seen don't fit with the result imo.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 2:01 pm to
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Because to me it shows a lack of aspiration.

Whoa, how?
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
21052 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 2:01 pm to
Pictures as a team/ teammates to either document or commemorate your time on the USMNT =/= celebratory pics.. It's not like they were popping bottles and spraying Jurgy with them, they did what any 20something year old in this day and age would do... Upload pics to social media, it's not that big of a deal man
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10840 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 2:04 pm to
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Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen a picture like the one from the win at Azteca where everyone was holding up drinks and looked celebratory.
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