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re: Gregg Berhalter says USMNT player was nearly sent home from World Cup due to poor behavior

Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:43 pm to
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:43 pm to
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Ellston Logan @EllstonLogan So next time Gio Reyna is invited into the #USMNT camp he's probably asking which teammates voted to send him home. Good work, @ussoccer . You are a joke organization unworthy of our own players. That's the truth. #BerhalterOut

Wondered who the 12 were? My guess who voted twice:

Aaron Long
Yedlin
Ferreira
Morris
Shaq Moore
Christian Roldan
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78751 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:45 pm to
I know you're just laying MLS bait out there, so I'll let someone else bite, but if it was like the McKennie vote in nashville, the votes are public. Gio knows.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78751 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:47 pm to
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Imagine if the Argentinian coach sat a prime Messi.


Ok, now we've jumped the shark on this.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5033 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:47 pm to
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Fans: Gregg sucks because he won’t play Gio

*comes out that Gio was giving no effort in training


Let's think about the timing of his poor effort:
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Reyna showed an alarming lack of effort in training ahead of the U.S.’s opening match of the tournament against Wales on Nov. 21, including in a scrimmage against Qatari club Al Gharafa SC on Nov. 17. Reyna’s lack of intensity in the scrimmage — sources described him walking around throughout his time on the field during what was otherwise an intense session — caused significant frustration within the team. The lack of effort was so pronounced that it was unclear whether Reyna was protecting against an injury or just frustrated that he was not set to be a starter against Wales.


You seem to be saying, in defense of Gregg, that he didn't play Gio because Gio gave poor effort in training, but the bolded part above flips it and says the lack of effort was after he knew Gregg had him on the bench.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5033 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:48 pm to
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Ok, now we've jumped the shark on this.


"it's not the same because Gio isn't Messi". You missed that part, or did you intentionally partially quote to be able to score a point?

I clearly used Messi to demonstrate the principle, the reason we tend to side with players on national team questions, especially when the manager is a chode.
This post was edited on 12/11/22 at 9:49 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78751 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:49 pm to
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"it's not the same because Gio isn't Messi". You missed that part, or did you intentionally partially quote to be able to score a point?



Honestly I stopped reading because that quote was so ridiculous.

Even reading the whole thing, it's an apples to playstation 5 comparison.
This post was edited on 12/11/22 at 9:49 pm
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
9401 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:49 pm to
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I know you're just laying MLS bait out there, so I'll let someone else bite, but if it was like the McKennie vote in nashville, the votes are public. Gio knows.


You either are an accountant of some sort, or in legal work.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5033 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:49 pm to
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Honestly I stopped reading because that quote was so ridiculous.

Even reading the whole thing, it's an apples to playstation 5 comparison.


So you just don't understand the concept of a principle?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78751 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:50 pm to
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So you just don't understand the concept of a principle?



Yep, I don't know what a principle is... ya got me brah
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
9401 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:51 pm to
That’s why I think he’s an account or engineering. He doesn’t get nuance and principles.

Forest/trees
This post was edited on 12/11/22 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78751 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:52 pm to
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Forest/trees



Well when you put it like that...
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29546 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:58 pm to
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Guys at that level would normally give their left nut to win(look at Pulisic….) To not even want a talented player on the team is an unreal sign that guy must be toxic

Half of the team, in the most important moment of their careers, didn’t want arguably our most talented player to be there because he was such a self centered, petulant a-hole. End of. This isn’t a Gregg issue this is a Gio issue. I think Gregg handled it fine during the tournament. I’m 50/50 on whether he should have said anything after the fact. There was context to what he was saying, in regards to leadership and dealing with difficult personalities. He did not say who it was so that really is not on him.

I’m legit curious to know what the “he’s got talent so he can behave like an a-hole” posters do for work in their own professional lives.

Berhalter probably lied to the media to protect Reyna… Saying he’s injured looks better than saying he’s half assing it during training and scrimmages. But people here will still blast GGG for it because reasons.
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
9401 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:59 pm to
I’m going to go with legal work.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78751 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:59 pm to
This Alyosha or Earnest?

Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
9401 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
9401 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:03 pm to
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Half of the team, in the most important moment of their careers, didn’t want arguably our most talented player to be there because he was such a self centered, petulant a-hole. End of. This isn’t a Gregg issue this is a Gio issue. I think Gregg handled it fine during the tournament. I’m 50/50 on whether he should have said anything after the fact. There was context to what he was saying, in regards to leadership and dealing with difficult personalities. He did not say who it was so that really is not on him. I’m legit curious to know what the “he’s got talent so he can behave like an a-hole” posters do for work in their own professional lives. Berhalter probably lied to the media to protect Reyna… Saying he’s injured looks better than saying he’s half assing it during training and scrimmages. But people here will still blast GGG for it because reasons.


This is sad.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78751 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:05 pm to
Alyosha: gets mad that broski is so serious

Also Alyosha: can't handle a joke

Unclinch the a-hole mate
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
9401 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:09 pm to

I’ve got around 10 years on you so I’ll give you a pass.
This post was edited on 12/11/22 at 10:10 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45511 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:11 pm to
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the reason we tend to side with players on national team questions, especially when the manager is a chode.


I don’t think any of us have been siding with Cristiano Ronaldo at this World Cup.

And obviously he’s had significantly greater success in his career than Gio.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12258 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:12 pm to
I need to revisit the Wynalda thread….. he seemed to be more right then wrong (yet still a douche).

Not sure what the basis is for the ‘he was injured’ argument. A lie by Gregg?

They were playing him against Qatar city team when he was too hurt to play meaningfully coming up against wales and England? Sorry - can’t buy that
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