re: FIFA will do whatever it takes to prevent the US from winning the World Cup

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SFP, what's going on in the image in your OP?

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in 2002 when we were shocking the world, late in our game against germany, a german defender committed one of the most obvious handballs ever to stop a goal (that would have tied it, iirc). should have been a red + a PK. did it happen? to quote a pic i posted earlier (that somebody said had no meaning), "nope"

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can there not be any additions once stoppage time starts? why not?

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i've seen it b/c of a serious injury before

there was no official announcement by the refs or anything. they just let it go on like 3-4 more minutes

I mean, if you grew up playing and/or still play, you've played a lot of places where there isn't even a fricking scoreboard. The only way to know the time is to ask the ref who will gladly tell you. You just play the game and the time, down to the second, just isnt important.

I do like the fact that apparently FIFA refs have been letting the teams just play and not throwing down cards at everything. However, there has been so much OBVIOUS chicanery on FIFA's watch over decades, I don't think anyone actually believes everything is on the up and up.

That being said, I have often wondered why the ref doesn't just place the ball after goals and if the celebrating team doesn't get their shite together in time, too bad. Yet this never seems to happen.

Well i think his argument is that regardless of the rules it's a bad system. I for one do not want to see the clock stopping every time the ball goes out of bounds or having the ref placed on the spot to determine when a player was down for too long or signifying the stop and start of the clock when a sub comes in. The players know the time. It's 90 plus add on. This argument would serve better if portugal had scored after the 5 minutes but everyone in the world knew how much time was left to be played so the pleas for "transparency" make little sense.

Both of the goals scored by Portugal were very preventable on our part. The extra time gripe is being brought up by most of us who watch all the games. They were more stoppages in the 2nd half of Russia/Belgium and Algeria/South Korea with neither game getting 5 added minutes. The standard seems to be 3/4 and we have gotten 5 when ahead. The ball was in their corner at 90+4 before the last run. Every game not involving us probably ends right then.

It seemed excessive for sure. But to amount to a fifa hates us? No. Or a call to stop the running clock certainly not. I don't thing anyone has suggested there isn't room for a gripe here but it also shouldn't even be a concern if we just take it to the corner or bradley plays that ball anywhere. This wasn't fifa this wasn't the clock it was us

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And over the course of 90 mins of the clock stopping and starting, how accurate is it really anyway?

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If it's controlled electronically by the whistle, pretty accurate.

Anytime a play results in the ref adding time right now, the whistle would blow to stop the clock and then again to start it.

I agree but we get put in situations of shite consistently. Added time has been the least of it but it bit us this time. People are upset shite like this happens every WC.

2010- Slovenia goal disallowed that cost us 2 points. Algeria goal disallowed that nearly cost us 2 more and would have put us out.

2006- Italy game we got 2 reds before half. The final game against Ghana when they got the pk was bs in itself. That ended any prayer of advancing.

2002- Germany handball in the quarters. Should have been a pk and a red. That doesnt guarantee victory but it gives us a chance.

Any of these alone could be let go but its a real pattern.