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re: FFP is a joke

Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by Bho
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:16 pm to
I have heard many in the media always claim that FFP actually hurt the smaller clubs than it did the big clubs. I was coming here to agree with the OP and beat the drum with him. Then I read this

quote:

Using the EPL as an example, the traditional top 4 of ManU, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs


and can't get past this nonsense. Spurs? Top 4? GTFO.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:55 pm to
Fine, change it to traditional top 3 which is now 5.

Just don't try to tell me Chelsea pre- roman was better than Spurs , because they weren't.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Just don't try to tell me Chelsea pre- roman was better than Spurs , because they weren't.



its a wash

an argument can be made for both

But Spurs is and always will be little brother in North London.

Chelsea is west London and even when they sucked was a London glamor club.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

its a wash
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:10 pm to
FFP is?
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Just don't try to tell me Chelsea pre- roman was better than Spurs , because they weren't.


Their histories are almost equal and Chelsea had finished ahead of Spurs in the league like 8 straight times before Roman bought the club.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:29 pm to
i just went back and looked at the table from the 2000/2001 season

check this out,

leeds finish 4th, ipswich 5th

charlton 9th, leicester 13th

man city relegated
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125441 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

leeds finish 4th, ipswich 5th

charlton 9th, leicester 13th


shite owners

quote:

man city relegated


terror money

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

It was a wash


That's just not true. Spurs contended far more often than Chelsea did in the league and completely obliterated them in the FA Cup, in an era in which the FA Cup was a lot more important than it is now.

Spurs were also the first English club to win the double and won multiple European trophies.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28438 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:38 pm to
PSG's main sponsor is the Qatar tourism authority or some shite.

They make 200m euros a year from that deal.

Man City's deal is only 350m pounds over ten years.

Let that sink in.

Also, I doubt Qatar even sees anything close to 200m euros in tourism dollars per year.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:42 pm to
I just looked it up and up until the mid 90's Spurs had finished in the top 6 of the top division in English Football 22 times. Chelsea had done it just 6 times.

Over that same period Spurs won 8 FA Cups. Chelsea won 1.

Yeah, totally equal
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125441 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:44 pm to
If the City owner ever gets bored with his play toy it will be interesting once the books are really opened up.

When City takes 50+ million pound loses year after year thats no way to run a business.

Like I said before they are clearly trying to circumvent the rules with stadium expansion. B/c those seat add to the potential revenue, if they are filled or not.

The write off for the new youth academy stuff wont last for long so they better hope those players start panning out in the next few years.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125441 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

I just looked it up and up until the mid 90's


Well you are just negating your own argument since Roman didn't buy the team until 2003.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:48 pm to
I thought it was more like 99 but regardless they didn't catch TH in any of those metrics over that small gap and the point still stands that until recent times Spurs had a much better history than Chelsea, who are to the EPL what Florida football is to the SEC
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125441 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

I thought it was more like 99 but regardless the point still stands that until recent times Spurs had a much better history than Chelsea


no it doesn't

You kept saying when Roman bought the team which was in 2003. Spurs went to shite and Chelsea was on the rise before Roman.

They wont 2 FA Cups and a League Cup in the 90's

Spurs had one FA cup in 91.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50255 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

finished in the top 6
how does that make them top 4?

I´ll admit, in Spain you heard more of Tottenham than Chelsea back then, however, being able to actually see either play, it was Chelsea (UEFA).

Manu in CL, Arsenal in UEFA, were the habitual ones.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:53 pm to
I already said if you didn't want to count Spurs as top 4 that's fine.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 1:55 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125441 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

being able to actually see either play, it was Chelsea (UEFA).

Manu in CL, Arsenal in UEFA, were the habitual ones.


Exactly when I was a kid the only English teams you could watch on espn2 in the champions league was United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal. B/c it was basically them finishing the top of the league.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

no it doesn't


Yes it does because even in the intervening years they still didn't come close to catching Spurs in either of those stats.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50255 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:56 pm to
oh, and a shout out to our boy S. You did see Leeds in CL and UEFA.
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