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re: Czech vs Italy espn right now

Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:27 pm to
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was born there, but that doesn't give you Italian citizenship right away b/c his parents are Egyptian


U.S. should take note.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:27 pm to
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lazy and selfish

you can add overconfident and mentally arrested.


Great talent that looks like it´s not going to pan out (will end up quite shy of his amazing potential).


Anelka 2.0
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 3:30 pm
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:29 pm to
That was his first red card for the national team.
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 3:30 pm
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:30 pm to
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U.S. should take note.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:36 pm to
So close for the check marks
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12158 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:36 pm to
It would be so much nicer if we could focus our anger on JK calling in Columbus' 5th string youth academy RB to start a WCQ instead of just being mad that these foreigners with a passport are playing in the stars and stripes.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:41 pm to
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Columbus' 5th string youth academy RB

At least he cares about this country.
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12158 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:46 pm to
Thats true, I saw this random fact where half of our starters still have never been in the country. Most of our 'home' matches aren't really in America. It's a pretty big conspiracy right now.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:47 pm to
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U.S. should take note.



yea and go against the values the country was founded on, i highly doubt your relatives where here with the native americans.
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17251 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:51 pm to
Bolivia-Venezuela on Bein. Bolivia's pitch is, well, interesting. Colombia-Argentina on after that, which should be pretty good.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
13818 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:03 pm to
Pirlo and Ballotelli can both be fun to watch on the offensive end, but in general, they are not a fun, attacking side to watch if you don't have a vested interest.

And this game was boring as shite.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:07 pm to
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Pirlo and Ballotelli can both be fun to watch on the offensive end, but in general, they are not a fun, attacking side to watch if you don't have a vested interest. And this game was boring as shite.
They were fun in the Euro 2012 Final. I thoroughly enjoyed their play.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:11 pm to
I am a Everton fan so I like Belgium , the scores today almost assure Belgium a W.C.
spot......
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9756 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 12:06 pm to
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was born there, but that doesn't give you Italian citizenship right away b/c his parents are Egyptian


No, El Shaarawy has been an Italian citizen from birth. His mother is Italian; his father is Egyptian.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
33034 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 12:13 pm to
Yep, just like Fabio Liverani and Matteo Ferrari.

I believe Balotelli and Angelo Obonna are the only two players to suit for the Azzurri who had no "Italian blood".
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481251 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 12:21 pm to
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They were fun in the Euro 2012

pirlo in euro 2012 had a run like forlan did in the 2010 WC. he was just fricking dominant
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 12:29 pm to
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No, El Shaarawy has been an Italian citizen from birth. His mother is Italian; his father is Egyptian.



gotcha i thought he was in the same boat as mario b/c if you have no italian blood you are not a citizen
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9756 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 2:00 pm to
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pirlo in euro 2012 had a run like forlan did in the 2010 WC. he was just fricking dominant


Italy's NT has revolved around Pirlo's pull for a decade. The disaster of the last WC was losing him at the last minute. Euro 2012 was Pirlo being Pirlo.

Itlay's prospects at the next WC still depend heavily on Pirlo but now Verratti can fill that role without changing tactics drastically. Of course, Verratti's still a kid and not likely to lead them that deeply if Pirlo's out but he should be at least a safeguard against the same rudderless ship Lippi sailed in South Africa.

Ultimately, Italy's prospects for Brazil 2014 may well be defined by this dynamic of emerging stars behind established veterans with their usual share of injury concerns.

It would seem that U-21 eligibles like Balotelli, El Sharawaay and De Sciglio are already full NT regulars in addition to Verratti even if he's still on the U-21 roster.

But Italy also has an almost unprecedented wealth of young attacking talent just behind them like Insigne, Destro, Immobile, Gabbiadini, Sansone, Paloschi, Florenzi. Prandelli loves youth, which sets him apart from most previous NT managers, and whether any of these kids take a big step forward this next year may well tell the story of how much more formidable Italy may be in Brazil compared with the Euro 2012 squad.

Insigne may be the real variable of these players. He could mature into offering a similar creative genius in the front three which Italy's never replaced since Totti retired Cassano is certainly of that quality but also fat and crazy. Who knows if he'll have a good year and return to the NT or open a pizzeria in Bari.

Regarding the earlier post about Italy being a sleeper for Brazil, I would say that Italy probably fits that description every time. It's not often that people consider Italy one of the clear favorites but they continue have a ton of success generation after generation.

Part of that is simply underestimating the depth of quality players Italy has since they all play in Serie A. For example: Bologna's Diamante would garner a lot more attention when people glanced over rosters if he played in the EPL (which he would if he were Belgian, Dutch etc). No one would have been surprised by Balzaretti and Marchisio's massive Euro performances had they been watching them at Palermo and Juve.

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