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Black Soccer in ATL - Good B/R Article

Posted on 8/19/18 at 2:19 pm
Posted by BraveTiger225
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2008
17662 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 2:19 pm
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Pretty good article and worth the read. Covers ATL UTD embracing and integrating the hip hop culture into its marketing, Soccer in the Streets, how Clarkston's immigrant community is a haven for the game, and how pay-to-play continues to be an issue despite the game's massive popularity in the city.
This post was edited on 8/19/18 at 2:20 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 2:51 pm to
grass root stuff is always the best way to grow sports, and with soccer being cheap( a ball is all you need), you can reach more.


Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 3:05 pm to
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with soccer being cheap( a ball is all you need)
You can say that about pretty much every sport.
Posted by My2ndFavCivilNgineer
Member since Jun 2013
586 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 7:55 am to
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You can say that about pretty much every sport.




Golf,Tennis,etc
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 8:10 am to
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Golf,Tennis,etc

Exactly.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22436 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:27 am to
I have always said that America needs soccer to become a street sport more than it needs a France style academy system.
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20865 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:19 am to
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Exactly.


I think he was disagreeing with you. You don't just need a ball for golf and tennis. Golf clubs are very expensive, and Tennis Rackets can be too.

Football somehow remains the most popular sport among poor kids, and it has big equipment cost with all the pads, helmet, cleats, etc.

Basketball is probably a decent equivalent since you just need a ball and a court, much like soccer.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:25 am to
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Football somehow remains the most popular sport among poor kids, and it has big equipment cost with all the pads, helmet, cleats, etc.

Basketball is probably a decent equivalent since you just need a ball and a court, much like soccer

If you dumb soccer down to just needing a ball, then you can do the same with football. Basketball just needs a ball and some hoop. Baseball needs a stick and a ball. Tennis needs a cheap racket and a ball. You can get a sack of used golf balls or range balls for cheap. Go buy one cheap putter, iron, and wood.
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20865 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:36 am to
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Basketball just needs a ball and some hoop


I already said that.

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Baseball needs a stick and a ball. Tennis needs a cheap racket and a ball. You can get a sack of used golf balls or range balls for cheap. Go buy one cheap putter, iron, and wood


No. No kid will excel at baseball with a stick and a ball, a cheap tennis racket for tennis, or just some golf balls and a few cheap clubs for golf.

I can see your argument for football, but that doesn't work so well when you throw in full contact.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:47 am to
You also aren't playing tennis or golf without a specific playing facility of some kind. at least with football and soccer you can play basically in an empty lot or field, hell even the street.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 1:13 pm to
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Football somehow remains the most popular sport among poor kids, and it has big equipment cost with all the pads, helmet, cleats, etc.



It's in areas where schools/town/people will pay for football gear before school books.

Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79234 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 3:21 pm to
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If you dumb soccer down to just needing a ball, then you can do the same with football. Basketball just needs a ball and some hoop. Baseball needs a stick and a ball. Tennis needs a cheap racket and a ball. You can get a sack of used golf balls or range balls for cheap. Go buy one cheap putter, iron, and wood.



It's a task for plenty of adults with money to find convenient access to even shitty golf facilities, much less poor inner city kids
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68689 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:16 pm to
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Basketball is probably a decent equivalent since you just need a ball and a court, much like soccer.


Easier to make goals with sticks or rocks or a shirt.

Anyway, good on ATL. Constant bitching about stadium attendence in other sports, but they have no problem getting people to show up.
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 8:19 pm
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
7885 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:22 pm to
Dear me.

Soccer you need a soccer ball and makeshift goal = $20

Football you need a football and landmarks for touchdown lines = $20

Baseball you need a bat and ball and glove and some trash to throw on the ground make bases = Around $100

Basketball you need a basketball and make shift hoop = $20

They are all comparable at a young age.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:31 am to
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They are all comparable at a young age.


lol
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18806 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:52 pm to
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have always said that America needs soccer to become a street sport more than it needs a France style academy system.


After I came back from France, I contacted US Soccer to try and get funding to start a program to put in street courts in several major cities. It ended up not being a successful proposition, unfortunately. How they can’t see that this is absolutely necessary to make Soccer on par with with the big three is unfathomable to me.

But, it looks like Target is doing exactly what I wanted to back then. I’m glad someone is finally doing it, and a little disappointed that I didn’t try the corporate route to secure funding.
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