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re: Arsenal's "Things Are Gonna Change, I Can Feel It! (lol, nope)" Summer Thread

Posted on 7/4/11 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
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Posted on 7/4/11 at 9:26 pm to
Difference is Clichy was filling in when Cole was out hurt and doing just as well. Cole was as good a LB as their was in the world, and Clichy was challenging him for his place in the XI. The Clichy of the past couple of years has been fairly average, and Gibbs hasn't really challenged him for a starting berth, and hasn't ever really impressed consistently. Not that Cole and Clichy weren't great for us, but I disagree that because of those two Wenger is to be trusted when it comes to LBs.

In possible Arsenal transfer target news, Vidal just scored on a header.

Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 7/4/11 at 9:55 pm to
Clichy hasn't been the same since Birmingham 08. Before then he was in great form.

Gibbs has more upside than Clichy because Gibbs is a naturally left footed player, as well has having way better attacking instincts. He can actually cross, and has a shimmy to him as well.

His attacking instincts will actually aid him defensively, as wide players tend to be pinned back when there is the threat of an effective overlap from the wingbacks. Clichy was never that effective attacking-wise, having only 9 assists in his whole career in comparison to Sagna's 15 in the last four years. And Gibbs has had four assists in far fewer games.

Clichy was often left on the back foot, which is why Nani and Ashley Young had good games against him in the past, and why he was continually targeted. I'd much prefer a wingback that blazed up and down the wide areas than one who is reluctant to go 15 yards past the half-way line. Because he was pinned back so often, he was able to make plenty of interceptions, but I'd argue that sort of back-foot defending is part of the problem with our back-line. As long as we play a inverted winger on the left, it's paramount we have left-sided width, which Gibbs will give us more naturally. That in turn will help defending by pinning back the opposing teams wide players.

Gibbs form the last two years has been down to injuries, which is something that is still a worry for him. But the talent is so obviously there that given Wenger's track record of producing LB's, there's a good chance that Gibbs will pan out.

I feel Wenger has a sort of pedigree when it comes to LB's, because of Cole and Clichy, neither of whom were natural LB's. This is one area I'm willing to leave up to him, as we have a more pressing needs at other positions.
This post was edited on 7/4/11 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/4/11 at 10:15 pm to
Fair enough.

Hopefully the Cesc/Nasri sagas will be finalized in the next week. Our summer needs a boost. I know Wenger likes to take his damn time with transfers, but it'd be nice to get the new guys in earlier for acclimation's sake.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/4/11 at 10:55 pm to
It would be nice if everything wrapped up by the end of this week. I'm hoping if Cesc leaves we will have the Ewing effect akin to the Henry leaving and the next season where we were, frankly, awesome until the Birmingham game and Eduardo's injury. I really think that was a turning point for Wenger's philosophy. We were so good that year, but it really blew up at the end. It started a trend. Heartbreak in some way to Birmingham City, lose all hope for silverware. Thank god B-ham was relegated.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/4/11 at 11:03 pm to
If only Cesc would sign a deal with Real. £50mil would be nice.

Rumor mill for Tuesday says we're pursuing Aly Cissokho, Hazard, and Mata.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/4/11 at 11:03 pm to
Aly Cissokho would be one damn good signing at left back
This post was edited on 7/4/11 at 11:04 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 7/4/11 at 11:04 pm to
Stay away from Izzy.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 7/5/11 at 7:05 am to
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Aly Cissokho


We would have to break our transfer record just to match the price Lyon paid for him. I doubt we will be able to get him. I'd rather try to get Hazard and Mata.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118265 posts
Posted on 7/6/11 at 7:15 am to
Gervinho in for a medical at Arsenal. Time to get moving Gunners.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 7/11/11 at 10:04 pm to



frick Yeah we signed Run DaMarcus Beasley.



:championship:
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 7/11/11 at 10:08 pm to
Gervinho needs to see the same hair specialist that Rooney saw.
Posted by Leauxgan
Brooklyn
Member since Nov 2005
17324 posts
Posted on 7/11/11 at 10:32 pm to


we goin to da 'Ship!
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/11/11 at 10:43 pm to
I don't necessarily understand the correlation, as Eto'o is a striker, Drogba is a center forward, and Gervinho seems to be a wide player, other than they are all African. Despite this, I hope that it means Gervinho will score 20 to 30 goals next season.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 7/11/11 at 10:52 pm to
Gervinho was the runaway winner for African player of the year this year. That's a nice honor. I think he'll be a solid addition for the side.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 7/11/11 at 11:28 pm to
So when does Run DMBinho's fresh diamond line hit London's posh shoppes?
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 7/11/11 at 11:32 pm to
They're still working on the bribes to make sure they aren't busted for selling conflict diamonds. No worries, should be quicker than his transfer.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 7/12/11 at 7:40 am to
Walcott and Miyachi had a race. They tied.

Wish England didn't have its stupid work permit rules. Also, Wenger said he's comfortable with Gibbs, Traore, and TV5 at LB. Doesn't look like they'll be any signing there.

I'm hoping the lengthy wait for a CB means that we're getting someone very good instead of settling for Samba or Cahill.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118265 posts
Posted on 7/12/11 at 7:50 am to
Mertsacker? Hmmmmmmmmmm....
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 7/12/11 at 8:03 am to
LINK

Maybe. A player of his quality would be immense. I hope we can get him.
Posted by Leauxgan
Brooklyn
Member since Nov 2005
17324 posts
Posted on 7/12/11 at 8:21 am to
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Walcott and Miyachi had a race. They tied.


:D

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Also, Wenger said he's comfortable with Gibbs, Traore, and TV5 at LB.


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