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re: Anyone else concerned with Tim Howard?

Posted on 8/15/13 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19486 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 8:42 pm to
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I do realize how Guzan excels at positioning as opposed to Howard.


Provided the ball is below eye level.

He (Guzan) is still (barely) a step above "disaster" on crosses. He's still improving, and he's certainly better than he was, but Howard is far better in the air than either Rimando or Guzan.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164048 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 8:54 pm to
Howard broke his got damn back not too long ago.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5363 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 9:24 pm to
Tim Howard says "frick you"
Posted by NewtonReb
Member since Aug 2011
737 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 9:27 pm to
OP, I am concerned with Howard.

He makes every save a GK should make, and hardly anything more. He has spectacular moments but they seem to be rare these days. And don't even get me started on his demeanor. He looks furious at all times.

For example, yesterday, instead of talking to his guys and fixing their positioning because they had been together only THREE DAYS, he simply yells at them about mistakes. His communication seems off, and anyone who watched the EPL last year knows Guzan is a better solution.


Here come the sheep.
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
6469 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 9:32 pm to
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instead of talking to his guys and fixing their positioning

They're not fricking 6. If they frick up and let in a goal you're gonna hear it from your keeper and deservedly so.
Posted by NewtonReb
Member since Aug 2011
737 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 9:36 pm to
Of course, but I mean, when you can scream at guys instead of actually alleviating the problem you have to right?

I'm just saying, go watch the 10 best GKs in the world and look at how they act after a defensive error by the back line.

Tim Howard is the one who looks 6.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164048 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 9:40 pm to
You'll feel better about Howard once we start shutting out Concacaf trash again. Something Rimando had trouble doing.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70780 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 9:44 pm to
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He makes every save a GK should make, and hardly anything more


This may be the stupidest thing ever typed on the soccer board.
Posted by madmax83
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Feb 2010
22 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 9:47 pm to
I'm not saying Howard's one of the best keepers in the world, but he is a pretty strong keeper, and certainly one of the best in the EPL. Everybody likes to talk about Donovan, but USMNT wouldn't be anywhere without Howard.
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
6469 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 9:48 pm to
Think about the who's who of scrubs he's had in front of him over the years. You'd be yelling too. Many keepers yell I've seen Buffon yell a few times.
Posted by Wait For It...
Member since Jun 2012
3502 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

Of course, but I mean, when you can scream at guys instead of actually alleviating the problem you have to right? 


He has tourettes, a-hole! Sorry I have it too...
This post was edited on 8/15/13 at 10:02 pm
Posted by CrimsonFlounder
Gulf Coast
Member since Feb 2011
1057 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 10:02 pm to
Timmy is the best pure shot stopper the US has had at GK. Guzan IMO is better at keeping his defense in position. Rimando is a good MLS goalie and should not ever be mentioned in the same sentence as Timmy. US is lucky to have to excellent GKs.
Posted by NewtonReb
Member since Aug 2011
737 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 10:23 pm to
I don't mention Tim Howard in the same sentence as Nick Rimando.

But, I also live in the present, and at the present Tim Howard isn't rated as highly as Guzan to me. 5 years ago? Sure. But you guys are basing things off of history.

Put it this way: if both guys were completely new(meaning Howard didn't have incumbency) and the same age, I believe the manager would pick Guzan, as he is CURRENTLY the better player.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50248 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 10:26 pm to
quote:


He has tourettes, a-hole! Sorry I have it too...
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5363 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 11:46 pm to
One year ago today Timmy stood on his head at Azteca and essentially won the match.

Until he f's up in a major game, this thread is nothing short of retarded.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 11:43 pm to
Bump
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 11:43 pm to
I am now.
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 9/7/13 at 12:06 am to
Maybe Guzan should get that chance soon. He done pretty well at Azteca.
Posted by americanoutlaw
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
4724 posts
Posted on 9/7/13 at 12:41 am to
Pretty much everyone else on this team has been held accountable for their club and country performance. Howard should be no different.
Posted by Wait For It...
Member since Jun 2012
3502 posts
Posted on 9/7/13 at 7:36 am to
Howard should lose his spot because he didn't save there goals that were not his fault? please...


ETA I've seen Howard look like shite for Everton last year, but he did nothing wrong last night. Near post corner, three guys open on a cross and a one v one.
This post was edited on 9/7/13 at 7:39 am
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