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All the people upset about the Donovan omission...

Posted on 5/23/14 at 7:38 am
Posted by Shane4689
Wrong Way on a No Way Road
Member since Dec 2010
3150 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 7:38 am
please don't assume that just because Donovan had abilities to do certain things in 2012 and before that he currently has those same abilities and was left off for some personal reason. HE IS an athlete and he is getting older. Could he score subbing into the second half? sure, but couldn't others? I put the omission on his age and fitness entirely. There is no way Jurgy got to where he is in coaching if he was the kind of person to omit someone for personal reasons. Remember Jurgy is building a TEAM with a FORMATION, no one player comes before this. I really like Donovan as a player, to this is not slight to him. Donovan was the best US player to play the game.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
28375 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 7:55 am to
i dont know how people delude themselves into thinking it was anything more than Landy being out of shape
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 7:55 am to
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@jonklinsmann HHAHAHAHAHAHAH DONAVAN HAHAHAHAA I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE UNTIL PHONE NOTIFIED ME HAHA
Posted by Shane4689
Wrong Way on a No Way Road
Member since Dec 2010
3150 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 7:58 am to
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@jonklinsmann HHAHAHAHAHAHAH DONAVAN HAHAHAHAA I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE UNTIL PHONE NOTIFIED ME HAHA


That was jurgy or his teenage son?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481240 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:00 am to
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i dont know how people delude themselves into thinking it was anything more than Landy being out of shape

it was much more than that. JK has had a hard on to frick over landycakse since he took over, for some reason

being super fit doesn't really matter for a 60-80 min offensive super sub, which landon would be. and we need that badly
Posted by Shane4689
Wrong Way on a No Way Road
Member since Dec 2010
3150 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:07 am to
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it was much more than that. JK has had a hard on to frick over landycakse since he took over, for some reason being super fit doesn't really matter for a 60-80 min offensive super sub, which landon would be. and we need that badly


Do we even know how landon did on his fitness test or training? Is he still a super sub? He was good in 2010, he was good in the gold cup, but this is four years later in the world cup. don't agree with omission completely, but it is understandable.
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24814 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:12 am to
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:16 am to
We're four years removed from last summer's Gold Cup? Or the Mexico qualifier in Columbus?
Posted by FunkasaurusReb
Memphis
Member since May 2014
870 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:18 am to
One thing is for sure around the 75th min and were down one goal, and Jergun looks at his bench, do you really think that a less than 100% Donovan is worst than Green or Davis?
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25826 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:21 am to
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One thing is for sure around the 75th min and were down one goal, and Jergun looks at his bench, do you really think that a less than 100% Donovan is worst than Green or Davis?


This.

That last 15-20 mins should be Cakes time. Instead, we get CONCACAF Wondo and his poaching.

Let's just hope we are never trailing late in a game
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:28 am to
I'm disappointed by Donovan's exclusion because I think LD was poised to make an impact as a second striker, a position where I think he would have been extremely effective. People have said that LD wasn't a superb passer but he actually had the best final ball on the team. I think Baby Bradley can pick up the slack but I would have loved to see Donovan make the classic move to a support striker role like other wingers have done.

Maybe Klinnsmann wants a team that can run for 90 minutes, but we have another thing coming if we think we are going to press Germany or Portugal all game.

Also Baby Bradley will have to pick up the slack in terms of creativity.
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
7129 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:31 am to
Stupid tweet by his son, but lets be fair, he probably had about a million messages telling him his father was a POS for leaving Landon off. He reacted stupidly to troll those people.

Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:32 am to
Everyone on the opponent's right side will have to be unconscious for Davis to have space. Dude is slow.
Posted by Joe Blow
Member since Nov 2007
2640 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:40 am to
Looks like dad killed son's Twitter account.
Posted by FunkasaurusReb
Memphis
Member since May 2014
870 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:40 am to
Yea, I don't think all these people realize how slow he is. He will be eaten up alive by our group, Hell he will be eaten up alive by 90% of the teams in the tournement.
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
7129 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:41 am to
quote:

One thing is for sure around the 75th min and were down one goal, and Jergun looks at his bench, do you really think that a less than 100% Donovan is worst than Green or Davis?


This.

That last 15-20 mins should be Cakes time. Instead, we get CONCACAF Wondo and his poaching.

Let's just hope we are never trailing late in a game



I think Wondo will be pretty decent as a super sub. But the problem is that Donovan is really the only forward/attacking midfielder that has stepped up for us at clutch time in the World Cup. Bradley did it against Slovenia but isn't a forward. Dempsey "kind of" did it against Ghana in 2006, but not really.

Jurgen clearly feels, for whatever reason (form, fitness, attitude) that Landon is just not capable of doing it at this moment. Or not as capable as Wondo is at least.

Davis is getting a bad rap here because he's there for essentially what was (and could or, some believe, should be) Donovan's position. If Davis has to play anything more than 10 minutes, we're @#$#@. And frankly, how often do you have a deadball that you need his left foot for in the last 10 minutes of a game? Once? Twice if you're lucky? His inclusion makes zero sense in that regard. But I don't think he was taken over Landon. I think it was Landon vs. Wondo.

Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12352 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:45 am to
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I think it was Landon vs. Wondo

I think this as well. But also don't discount the inclusion of Bacon, Julian and Bedoya. All of those guys take a spot that could have been LD's. I feel like the Brad Davis thing was happening regardless of the decison about Donovan.
Posted by FunkasaurusReb
Memphis
Member since May 2014
870 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:52 am to
Yea, I'm mainly just venting a little unfairly at Brad Davis. His inclusion in the team wasn't the reason Donovan was left off. Davis for whatever reason is just Klinsmanns man. The fact that he is almost useless agienst the teams were about to play and that he won't see the pitch (nor will Green, besides a Germany run out if were loosing bad enough), and the fact that Donovan still has enough talent to come in as a sub and influence a game doesn't sit well with me.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 9:18 am to
Right. We are going to throw Davis out there in the hope we get a set piece that requires his left foot. Problem is he is out there the entire time until that play may happen.
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