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re: Zelensky’s US Split: Euro Cash, Russian Lessons, and Putin’s Europe 101

Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:16 pm to
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In fact Germany is on the edge



We caused that when we blew up Nordstrom 2
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
9574 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:45 pm to
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So you think that means Russians will be having coffee in Paris?

If Russia makes a push into Western Europe they will have to stop at the Rhine because of France’s nukes. But without American support to Europe, Russia could conceivably make that run with little resistance and get assistance with all the non- Europeans already established in those countries.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:57 pm to
NATO is pointless. Is Russia really deficient in territory? They dont care about non-Russian ethnic lands.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:00 pm to
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If Russia makes a push into Western Europe they will have to stop at the Rhine because of France’s nukes. But without American support to Europe, Russia could conceivably make that run with little resistance and get assistance with all the non- Europeans already established in those countries.


What use would Russia have for non-Russian ethnic, broke arse countries with massive welfare states?
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
9574 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 7:37 am to
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What use would Russia have for non-Russian ethnic, broke arse countries with massive welfare states?


An unstable central and western Europe means more security/ dominance for Russia. They surely would have no interest in direct governance but just puppet governments.

It could and likely would backfire on them as once the non-Europeans are done destroying Europe they would turn on them.
This post was edited on 3/1/25 at 7:38 am
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:00 am to
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An unstable central and western Europe means more security/ dominance for Russia. They surely would have no interest in direct governance but just puppet governments.


This is just meaningless talking points. They need security from European governments that dont have serious militaries? This isnt 1900.

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It could and likely would backfire on them as once the non-Europeans are done destroying Europe they would turn on them.


Ok this is what gets me about the Russia haters. Yall think these people are just savage idiots just hellbent on mindless conquest. So a random dude on on the internet can understand that mindless conquest would backfire...but they wouldnt?

Im sorry but some of yall seriously need to get out and see the world. There is life that goes on outside of the US. Not everyone is living their life obsessed with the US. Russians arent evil people
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19536 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:03 am to
NATO is nothing without the US. It's time is over.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
9574 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:29 am to
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What use would Russia have for non-Russian ethnic, broke arse countries with massive welfare states?

Don't be projecting this bullshite on me. No where will you see I took a side in Ukraine vs Russia. I do understand where Russia is coming from and the reason for this war. Ukraine and Nato was a red line for Putin yet Biden US policy kept pushing and hence the war with Ukraine.

My scenario above is years down the line if possible at all. But for Russia to be that aggressive then the US would have to totally pull out of Europe(for whatever reason) and Europe then wanting a de-stabilized Russia to dominate or for them to conform(globalists). I can see Russia invading Central/ Western Europe as a means of their own security.

Security is why the US has worked to keep Mexico de-stabilized since the mid 1800s.

Why do you think Trump has eyes on Greenland and keep referring Canada as a 51st state. Why do you think Trumps first action was to keep non-Western Hemisphere influence away from the Panama Canal. Its all about security for the US.
This post was edited on 3/1/25 at 8:30 am
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:16 am to
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I can see Russia invading Central/ Western Europe as a means of their own security.


I suppose anything is possible. Mongolia may decide to invade Europe at some point. Its not probable at all but I suppose we better prepare for it anyway.

Entertaining the prospect of Russia invading Europe is just asinine to me. The world has changed. Russia even at the height of its military power never tried to invade western Europe. It only acquired eastern Europe because of the events of WW2.

Its time to make amends and build a relationship with Russia. If we had that kind of relationship that was mutually beneficial, they would be much. less likely to do anything to upset it.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17137 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:25 am to
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I don’t care if they exist but only a handful of countries actually contribute their required minimum


The US should state they will only pay the same percentage as the lowest contributing country.

We need to stop being the police force for the world, and also stop sending money (aid) to other countries. We are yugely in debt and if we are going to spend money it needs to be on Americans and American infrastructure.

Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
2135 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:32 am to
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That being said, Russia has absolutely no chance against NATO and OP is retarded


The munitions Russia produces in three months equals the yearly production of NATO.

At this rate Ukraine will bleed out long before any EU advantages take effect.
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