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re: You’re alive around 1890 and the Government comes out with this mandate.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:00 am to PineyWoodsHog
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:00 am to PineyWoodsHog
Greener would be the more correct term no doubt. Semantics
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:00 am to Isaiahprophet
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In the beginning stages it will cost, but not like oil exploration costs, buddy, come on. All you need is panels in a field and the sun and some wires running to power converter/storage stations. It's not really that $ relatively speaking
Right on cue, the government shill shows up.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:01 am to Isaiahprophet
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price drops as technology advances
There are a ton of huge hurdles to adaptation of EVs on huge scale.
They range from mere technical hurdles, to issues with raw material availability (metals for batteries), to logistical/infrastructure (power plants, charging stations etc).
In addition, China, India, S America, and Africa will be staying on HCs while we handcuff ourselves with "green" bullshite.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:02 am to salty1
It's amazing these idiots think I'm some weird alter government hired troll. Lol go look me up on FB dude... You'll see how much of an idiot you sound like rn.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:04 am to Isaiahprophet
The government fears people like me. Stop being an ignoramus, bud.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:04 am to Privateer 2007
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There are a ton of huge hurdles to adaptation of EVs on huge scale.
Inner city power networks, that have been installed for decades and not needed to be upgraded on a massive scale due to minimal growth, will require upgrades across the board when everyone is installing EVs in their homes.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:06 am to Blutarsky
And that's a good thing. Even without the demand from EV the grid needed serious upgrading. You should know that.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 11:07 am
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:07 am to Isaiahprophet
quote:Now do similarly forced Hospital EMRs. When you're done sorting that out, tell us which tech wizard in the PotatoBrain Administration is choosing the winner between Hydrogen Fuel Cell and Lithium Battery Electric.
And then just like flat screen tvs and literally anything else that's new on the market, people find cheaper ways to produce and the price drops even as technology continues to advance. Lol .. some of you people simply cannot think things out.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:07 am to Blutarsky
As long as it doesn’t have red horseshoes
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:08 am to NC_Tigah
We are way past lithium dude. Material sciences is taking off. All that technology will be old in a year, or already is
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 11:09 am
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:09 am to Isaiahprophet
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all you need is panels in a field and wires
I'll make sure to tell Dow, etc.
They run power plants at their large sites to power operations.
I'm sure they'll be happy to just go solar. As it's apparently more cost effective, and very simple.
Crazy how their engineers and scientists didn't think of this.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:09 am to Blutarsky
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Here is the things about EVs..
It will significantly drive up the cost of your power bill which will dwarf what you are paying in gas today.
The power grid is nowhere near capable of handling any major increase in the number of EVs either.
Not to mention...where do these idiots think that electricity is generated from?
It ain't coming from unicorns farting rainbows.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:10 am to Isaiahprophet
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And that's a good thing. Even without the demand from EV the grid needed serious upgrading. You should know that.
The transmission grid is the biggest item that needs to be addressed.
Distribution grids, especially those owned by utilities that are regulated, are limited to when they can add/upgrade their equipment.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:10 am to Isaiahprophet
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Y'all don't know what y'all are talking about
I don’t share the same concerns about the obvious impracticality of a cutover to EVs and renewable energy sources that the rest of the Board has.
My resistance to changing the energy framework of the country while the rest of the world continues to use traditional energy sources is that it’s a decision that puts toxic, Western patriarchal, white supremacist, America-first thinking at its heart. Why do we think we’re so special that we should be the first to enjoy the benefits of safe, abundant, inexpensive, renewable energy sources before the rest of the planet, especially underserved Third World countries?
Supporters of the abrupt cutover to alternative energy are greedy, narcissistic, Neanderthals who can only think of themselves and are probably Ultra MAGA, too.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:13 am to Blutarsky
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EVs are being mandated across the board via this Administration’s policies.
Hey, it's not like he ran his campaign ending fossil fuels. Oh wait. Yes it was.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:13 am to Nosevens
And as far as emissions from production to utilization, EV vehicle produce MORE emissions that combustion cars until the EV is driven >50K miles. Thanks for helping with the environment.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:14 am to Privateer 2007
How much do you want to bet they all have green energy plans in place? How much?
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:16 am to BobABooey
Lol wow... That's one out there take. So many fallacies to address
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:18 am to Isaiahprophet
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Not if we on a large scale start building more and more solar farms to harvest the energy of the sun. Costs will rapidly go down as energy will be available in abundance. I worked on the first industrial solar farm in Louisiana across the river in Rosedale. It powers 40,000 homes and only takes up less than 60-80 acres or so. As material sciences get better their efficiency and availability to all will only continue to bring costs down. Y'all don't know what y'all are talking about
Yes we are all hayseeds and hicks that live in caves.
Your solar panel energy conversion at best is 33%.Please read about the Shockley–Queisser limit. And this takes into account for a solar panel that is new. Overtime this energy conversion rate gets even lower.
Solar panels are true snake oil.
Maybe I should get into this scam too.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:19 am to skiboman1
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And as far as emissions from production to utilization, EV vehicle produce MORE emissions that combustion cars until the EV is driven >50K miles. Thanks for helping with the environment.
Then there is the little mentioned problem of what to do with all those dead batteries full of toxic waste 10-12 years down the road.
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