re: You did this to yourselves...

It was over when we gave women the right to vote

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“But but but… I’m a libertarian, man. Live and let live, bro. If it’s not hurting ME, then I don’t care what happens.”

Hint: You suckers with this mindset have been snowed by the Left. You are/were their unwitting pawns.

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The trees in lord of the rings are the libertarians.

They didn't want to go to war because it "didn't effect them" until they walked to other side of the forest and realized a significant chunk of their friends had been destroyed.

They were willing to let Sauron destroy the world as long as it didn't effect them or their tribe.


I see a lot of Americans that only care about their own self-promotion and the promotion of their immediate tribe and have no concern for the broader social issues.

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"I cAnT geT iNvolVeD i haS woRk cUz I nOt oN thA weLfaRe hur hur hur!

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Heard that one 1000's of times too. Besides activist types and three 80yo women, people weren't even willing to put in 8-10 hours a year.

When you all didn't get involved for decades, they had to pay for tasks that normally would have been done by a volunteer.

Locals weren't important anymore, and there were a line of entities willing to buy the politicians and pay to help them get elected.

That was the huge shift away from giving af about the local voters.

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At this point, no. I'm talking about 30 years ago when something could have been done. It's a fricking wrap now.

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Someone gets it.

Sucks, but you get it.

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Now, if someone wants to criticize the effectiveness of the Libertarian Party, grab a ticket and stand in line behind me. Yet after following these debates for many, many years, it usually ends up that the ones who most likely are to blame “libertarians” for the deepening crisis more often than not are the very same cocksuckers who lectured us that we were traitors to “conservatism” if we didn’t support the neofascists pigs Bush, McCain & Romney and were equally “unAmerican” to dare question their globalist wars of perpetual Empire.

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This country will not survive the damage done to it by W. That administration fundamentally altered the scope and course of this nation and its government permanently, forever. It was a mortal wound to the American experiment.

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absolutely nothing would change what has happened and what is coming. you are incredibly naive to think the political process matters. it means nothing. nothing. it is nothing but a charade.

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He knows that.

He’s talking about how we got here and the people who helped get us here by who they voted for in some cases and by what they did not do in other cases.

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This country will not survive the damage done to it by W. That administration fundamentally altered the scope and course of this nation and its government permanently, forever. It was a mortal wound to the American experiment.

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Republicans were led down the primrose pass by their rightful disgust with the sleaze of the Clintons*. Yet part of the elder Bush’s much ballyhooed “New World Order” was consolidating rule in Washington D.C. into a one party state.

The 1992 Presidential election — the first of the post Cold War era — was simply a contest between the left and right wing of the Deep State over which side would contain control over the nation’s then triumphant military Empire. It irritates many Bush, Clinton and Obama loyalists to hear it but when it comes to foreign policy, each Presidency was essentially a continuation of the one before it: consolidation of that Empire.



*I cast stones at none but myself: I voted for Bush in 2000.

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The trees in lord of the rings are the libertarians.

They didn't want to go to war because it "didn't effect them" until they walked to other side of the forest and realized a significant chunk of their friends had been destroyed.

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While Tolkien himself was disdainful of discussing the LOTR in strictly allegorical terms, the Ents could also be read as a physical representation of an anthropomorphic natural world fighting back against the increasingly mechanized and industrialized society that Tolkien abhorred.

The Ents were raised to action by the total depravity of Sauron’s minions in Mordor and their entry into the conflict were instrumental in the ultimate defeat of Sauron.

Some scholars have made a convincing argument that the brave Ent “Treebeard” — the eldest and wisest living entity in Middle Earth — was indeed based on Tolkien’s close friend (and sometimes literary rival) C.S. Lewis.

FWIW, Tolkien described his own political sympathies — in an obvious self-contradiction — as leaning toward either anarchism or monarchism:

“My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy, (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs) — or to ‘unconstitutional’ Monarchy…”*

Tolkien’s apparent affection for the contradictory political philosophies of anarchy and monarchy could indeed be summed up in the realm of the Hobbits in Middle-Earth.

Tolkien himself said he identified with the diminutive denizens who lived in the idyllic Shire with no rigid political structure beyond devotion to community and clan, a tradition the Hobbits inherited from an ancient kinship to the Kingdom of Men.

If a political philosophy could indeed be applied to the Shire, it would be akin to the voluntarist-minded philosophy of distributionism , championed by Catholic apologists G.K. Chesterton and Hilaire Belloc.

C.S. Lewis described distributionism this way:

“I believe man is happier, and happier in a richer way, if he has ‘the free-born’ mind. But I doubt whether he can have this without economic independence, which the new society is abolishing. For economic independence allows an education not controlled by Government; in adult life, it is man who needs, and asks, nothing of the Government who can criticize it’s ideology. Who will talk like that when the State is everyone’s schoolmaster and employer?”*

*Source for direct quotes in italics above: The Philosophy of Tolkien: The Worldview Behind The Lord Of The Rings by Peter J. Kreeft.