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Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:44 am to GEAUXmedic
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"California is and always has been a refuge for the poor and oppressed, providing opportunities for all."
Holy shite.
Cali blocked their borders during The Great Depression, put up roadblocks and shot people trying to enter L.A.
They don't even know their own history.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:50 am to Rocco Lampone
quote:Not an issue. Look up Guantanamo.
We need their seaports for defense.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:58 am to TheArrogantCorndog
quote:Will be kind of hard for them to raise Avacados, almonds, and other food items without the water that comes in from the states east of them. U.S. can just shut off the spigot and that whole state just dries up. See how long they last without fresh water or gas and electricity coming in from Texas? I guess, they can build desalinization plants and pay $8 a gallon for water, or ship in their natural gas from Venezuela on natural gas ships and pay triple the cost of gas currently coming in from Texas.
They can keep their weed, wine, avocados and their fricking port
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:22 am to The Balinese Club
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Let me chime in here about California agriculture. California agriculture is centered around fruits and vegetables. They cannot effectively grow grain, cotton, or proteins due to their extreme shortage of water. In addition, the freight costs to ship grains to feed animals in that state put them at an extreme disadvantage to the Plains for beef, Appalachia for poultry, and the Midwest for pork. True they have somewhat of a dairy industry and egg industry, but the cost of real estate and their ideology is forcing those two out as well.
Rankings for California production of certain products referenced in your post:
Hay - 3rd
Cotton - 4th
Rice - 2nd
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:26 am to HubbaBubba
Yeah we get our water from the water abundant states east of us like Arizona and Nevada. Wait you said Texas. Does that water travel through the famous Texas to California water pipeline?
You guys are hilarious! Our watershed comes from the Sierra Nevada's which are, you know, in California!
You guys are hilarious! Our watershed comes from the Sierra Nevada's which are, you know, in California!
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:30 am to GEAUXmedic
There is still a sizable conservative population in CA. If the liberals secede, recognize a government-in-exile representing the Republican-held counties, and provide weapons and air support to the "rebels" along with military advisors.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:35 am to GEAUXmedic
California is not "the largest state in the union." Obviously written by a non-English speaking person.
It is the most populous state in the union.
It is the most populous state in the union.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:37 am to Ricardo
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I'd tell them no. And future talk of secession will be considered treason. We will preserve the union by force if we must. It's an imperative of national security and prosperity that we do.
I am willing to overlook the 140ish years of hypocrisy to see them off.
Secession, it's not just for "racist, bigoted traitors" anymore! Wait, New England tried it before the civil war?
New England Secession efforts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:10 pm to Easy
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Rankings for California production of certain products referenced in your post: Hay - 3rd Cotton - 4th Rice - 2nd
And when you don't have any water it will be nada!
Leave. Just go. No one cares. Prove us wrong.
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:13 pm to The Balinese Club
We're not even threatening to leave!
And we have our own water. We just understand that water like other resources is limited and plan accordingly.
And we have our own water. We just understand that water like other resources is limited and plan accordingly.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:25 pm to LSURussian
You do realize that the word large can refer to a number of people, right?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:34 pm to johnnyrocket
Yep... more and more films, pilots, series, etc. aee filming elsewhere (mainly in republican states that offer far better tax incentives) and Cali apparently leads the nation in poverty now.
I'm like you, love the natural beauty the state offers, but even it can frick itself right in its very own liberal pussy.
If they want to secede, then by all means I'll help lead the movement. But we all know it'll never happen, so all we can hope for is the mega-quake.
I'm like you, love the natural beauty the state offers, but even it can frick itself right in its very own liberal pussy.
If they want to secede, then by all means I'll help lead the movement. But we all know it'll never happen, so all we can hope for is the mega-quake.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 12:48 pm to Easy
San Diego already has a desalination plant up and running.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:04 pm to Easy
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You guys are hilarious! Our watershed comes from the Sierra Nevada's which are, you know, in California!
Why do you even bother? Most posters here have their minds made up and won't change no matter how many facts you show them.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:16 pm to Easy
quote:Read again simple Simon. You get gas and electricity from Texas.
Wait you said Texas. Does that water travel through the famous Texas to California water pipeline?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:23 pm to Ricardo
Are you in the Army?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:27 pm to volod
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Now wait, lets be rational about this.
Think about Hollywood, the money that California alone brings in to the federal government. I really do not think it is a wise idea to just let them go
Also, some of the best universities in are California and dont get me started on a little something called "Silicon Valley" and the powerful STEM workforce in that state.
California is a very valuable state to our union, and I think we can work out our differences.
So once they leave they'll be taxed on all of these goods and services in order to get them to their largest customer, the U.S.
Add in the tax breaks to companies moving into the U.S. and they will soon see the advantages to leaving Cali and coming back to the U.S. Cali's economy sinks and it devolves into essentially a third world country. Just like every other democratically controlled place in the U.S.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:39 pm to RLDSC FAN
They certainly don't let facts get in the way of their argument.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:55 pm to Easy
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Yeah we get our water from the water abundant states east of us like Arizona and Nevada. Wait you said Texas. Does that water travel through the famous Texas to California water pipeline?
You guys are hilarious! Our watershed comes from the Sierra Nevada's which are, you know, in California!
Ever heard of Lake Mead?
Do everyone a favor and call your congressional delegation that you no longer need water from the Colorado River.
Arizona says thanks.
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