re: Yep, let's let California go...

PT posters have a mental block on reading things that they disagree with.

Let's recap. The letter in the OP never suggests that we want to leave the US. In fact it explicitly states the opposite. Secondly we (California) are a donor state. We pay more in federal taxes than we get back. If you live in Louisiana you live in a debtor state and rely on the federal govt. Tax-wise us leaving hurts you, not us.

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What about the 3.1 million people in California that voted Trump? Want to alienate them? Split California into North and South?

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Then US would still have west coast access… sure!

Oh yeah. The famous and delicious louisiana water that we import to grow 25% of the US agriculture.

how many of them are from the liberal side of the state? This is the issue with stats, just because a kid is from cali doesn't mean they were born there or that they would be a liberal. A good chunk of cali is very red, the population centers like most are blue and cali just happens to have some major population centers.

another misnomer, going off federal tax revenue. The ones that wanted to leave in Texas and the south are the actual revenue earners. They dislike the ones that cause the balance to be off. Also its been brought up but not paying for social security for cali would be a nice thing. Cali would have to fund everything on its own and it wouldn't work.

Not many states could leave the US and survive on their own. You would need a nice pack of states.

Oh I don't doubt your desire to be a donor state and not a debtor state. I'm just pointing out that we are and you're not, so the argument that we'll lose federal money is ridiculous.

And regarding those that aren't productive, I believe that california has 20% of all the people on welfare in the country. Maybe your productive people just aren't as productive as ours.

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As a nation we do need the ports and agriculture.

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Let me chime in here about California agriculture. California agriculture is centered around fruits and vegetables. They cannot effectively grow grain, cotton, or proteins due to their extreme shortage of water. In addition, the freight costs to ship grains to feed animals in that state put them at an extreme disadvantage to the Plains for beef, Appalachia for poultry, and the Midwest for pork. True they have somewhat of a dairy industry and egg industry, but the cost of real estate and their ideology is forcing those two out as well.

All the vegetables and fruit that are grown in California can be grown in Arizona and South Texas with the right water, Texas and Florida can provide citrus, and fair trade agreements with Cuba and Mexico can be negotiated to help augment that.

Furthermore, their need for water basically will end California agriculture without imported water from lake Mead. In addition, their ideology to demand all non-gmo and organic will force mass production agriculture out of business as it has with their dairy and egg industry. Or maybe they can just expect to pay 10% to 20% more of their incomes on food to offset this. They will also have trouble powering agriculture with green energy. Solar powered tractors don't really exist right now.

California will have to import their food from us, and we will make them pay for it.

#NotmyWestcoast

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I really do not think it is a wise idea to just let them go

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you're right, they are going to need some friends....take Oregon, Washington, and Nevada with them

You still buy movies and software from nafta countries after the West coast secedes.

Then you will see which state is taker.

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