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re: Y’all counter BLM with All Lives Matter....

Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:27 am to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:27 am to
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But, unfortunately, a TON of folks here focus on bad guy


And you ignore the good, innocent guys like David Dorn or kids dying from gang violence to focus on career criminals. Is it really any different?

What if we said ALL BLACK LIVES MATTER, is that fair?

Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20211 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:30 am to
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Why are you not outraged by the too numerous to count white people murdered by black people? Why are you not outraged by white people killed by cops?



Indeed...here in the Birmingham area we had, just a few days ago, a white officer with three boys slain by a couple of blacks, as he came to a motel on a duty call. Why do we not hear about this nationally? Where is the outrage from the OP types? I mean shite...the select few incidents that get play are all geared to the whites or white cops(or Oriental as well in the Floyd case) and how it relates to blacks.

These liberals pretend that it's all a one way issue. The thing is, the sole purpose of the outrage to a large extent is to exploit the tragedy and use it as a means to achieve political aspirations, policy aspirations, or to straight destroy and steal things. It's bullshite.

I gotta say, I was and am outraged by the cop who kneeled on Floyd. If there were rallies, where I felt safe, to march in remembrance of Floyd, I'd be apt to join the march. But these situations are quickly hijacked for the wrong reasons. A lot of good will and folks who are righteously upset are totally alienated by the fricktards that ruin so many things. As always, liberals frick up just about everything they touch, like King Midas 180. Fool's gold for a bunch of damned fools. Fitting!

Finally, I'd like the OP to articulate his outrage about the mass slaughter associated with black on black inner city crime...oh that's right, it matters not to these morons. Black lives apparently only matter if it's a different race that takes one, especially whitey. Disproportionate killing of blacks via abortion? Meh...massive black loss of life in the inner cities? Meh...why OP? There should be outrage flowing from the rooftops for the years and years of killing in huge numbers of blacks in other realms but we don't hear shite about it, then we are suddenly supposed to lose our collective minds when just the right set up happens. Whatever...
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 8:33 am
Posted by MichiganTiger
Where Global Warming is Welcomed!
Member since Dec 2004
7786 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:31 am to
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Alas, that's not what your OP was about. Your OP thinks it's a gotcha about whether all lives matter or not.

They do


They do to you and me and lots of other folk.

But, many support the good riddance approach and think George got what he deserved when they see his rap sheet. Those are the folks that think that his life didn’t matter.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140383 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:32 am to
Who is saying he deserved to die?

This board overall has not. This board said his death was wrong and instead of being dead he should probably be in jail or in drug rehab or on the set of a porno.

Is that not fair?
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 8:35 am
Posted by walley tux
DFW
Member since May 2020
794 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:33 am to
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if he’s accused of passing counterfeit $...arrest him and put him in the back of your vehicle. The guy had him cuffed and prone...with 3 other officers there. Just toss his arse in the back....it’s ridiculous. No...perspective is what you need a lesson on.



duh you phucking retard that's what the cops were trying to do. he resisted when they tried to put him in the back of the squad car. he laid down across the back seat, he refused to put his legs in the car, they tried to pull him in the car from the passenger side while cops pushed from the drivers side, he was 6'6". what would you have done "top cop".

let me give you some advice, when you're arrested cooperate.
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 8:37 am
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78565 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:33 am to
Who are these people? Instead of accusing all of us who have said EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE, Maybe you could argue with those people specifically, instead of dumbing the board down with your semi- coherent hot takes?
Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2619 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:36 am to
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So...you’re saying that a guy passing fake money should’ve realized that he was likely to get killed for doing that? The same risk as getting blind drunk and driving? Nope...you’re comparison is shite.


I tell my kids often, “you can chose your actions, you can’t chose your consequences”
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73571 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:36 am to
Why do you progs always lie?
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9924 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:39 am to
It is a stupid counter in their minds. Of course all lives matter, black people want to hear white people say their lives matter because they think it will make a change. It won't, because forcing someone to say something that they are resistant to saying does not change their beliefs, but this is all about the "feels" and not about "action."
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140383 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:41 am to
He can’t virtue signal if he talks down to the couple of people that believe the man with 4 aliases deserves to be dead.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20017 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:42 am to
“All Lives matter” is a imo an attempt to properly frame the discussion. Do you want to end police brutality?

“Black Lives Matter” would be perfectly fine, except it is almost immediately followed by the word racism. That puts people on the defensive. Not only because police brutality is well documented against all races, it expands the conversation to citizens by saying white people are some how responsible. These people know the stats, and that violent attacks against whites from blacks is 9-10x more than the other way around, despite there being some 5x more whites (paging Korkstand). This would indicate that either A) their is racism toward white people that ends in violence and/or B) black people are just tremendously more violent than white people, which leads to increased violent police interactions.

And then you have the group that doesn’t actually think all lives matter, and if you are a piece of shite that contributes little to society other than crime, and put yourself into more interactions with police, your life should not be blindly celebrated because your behavior was a huge factor in what led to your demise. These people probably wouldn’t make the claim All Lives Matter so it that sort of blows up your talking point.

If you want to further the Black Lives Matter movement, you got to drop the racism bit if you want all white people on board. Filling whites people with guilt is just not going to solve black peoples problems, unless that is the purpose of the movement ultimately monetary, which I believe it is.

This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 8:45 am
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:47 am to
which brings us back to the HALF MILLION VIOLENCE INCIDENTS blacks commit each year and THAT Karma
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3263 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:48 am to
Wrong....criminal records are brought up when people try and paint a picture of someone being this totally amazing person that helps all those in need and gives much more than he takes in life because they are such a good person and look at this travesty.

Now the deaths of these men are a travesty and should not have happened...but don’t paint this false picture of someone and then when people point out there past and then get all pissy about it....you think the woman George Floyd committed armed robbery on thinks he is some angel helping his fellow citizens? The guy was using counter fit money and high on drugs, stop being so butt hurt when facts are presented that you don’t like. No one is saying it’s ok he was killed and it’s ridiculous that this is what you take from FACTS to get a better understanding of the situation and how the events unfolded.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78565 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:51 am to
Would BLM accept “ OF COURSE black lives matter, that’s not debatable. In fact it’s important to remember that ALL LIVES MATTER.”. Does that still get me killed on the street ? And if the answer is that it would get me killed, is this about agreeing on the value of human life or about humiliating and intimidating whites into jumping through a linguistic hoop? Orwell, my brother, are you seeing this?
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20017 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:53 am to
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He’s the real comparison. Guy gets a gun. Walks into a bank..,sticks the gun out and demands money. Cop at the scene shoots him dead....and rightfully so!


Ok now we are getting somewhere. So you do understand the concept of violent interactions involving police increase the likelihood of being killed by police. It is the most contributing factor and it isn’t close to what color your skin is. You also seem to think some of these killings are justified because of the victims behavior!

So now we have a result (being killed by cops) and a variable (violent interactions), when multiplied by race (the other variable) gets back to your result. Since your race is a given, it is logical that the only way to decrease the likelihood of being killed by a cop is to reduce violent interactions with police.

How is marching in the street, burning stealing and otherwise destroying other peoples property and calling white people racist going to accomplish decreasing the number of violent interactions between blacks people and police.

Now think about how many people are sitting at home putting this fairly simple equation together, and watching the craziness unfold while Liberal politicians applaud the behavior. Their opinion has been deemed racist, they will keep it to themselves. How do you think they will vote in November?
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:53 am to
Forever trusting who we are
And nothing else matters

Hetfield
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3650 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:54 am to
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No...I put it in perspective. I get that cops put up with some serious BS. They deal with dangerous crap all the time. But, if All Lives Matter, you don’t choke the life out of a guy that you’re pissed at


I would say that the VAST majority (over 90%) absolutely agree with this.

If you think I'm wrong in this response, would you please provide all (or even just some) of the links where people are saying/agreeing with/implying that someone SHOULD choke the life out of a guy you're pissed at.

quote:

if he’s accused of passing counterfeit $...arrest him and put him in the back of your vehicle. The guy had him cuffed and prone...with 3 other officers there. Just toss his arse in the back....it’s ridiculous




Again, the vast majority of the people you are arguing with and insinuating are racist absolutely agree with this. WE are appalled and disgusted with what that POS cop did. Most of us absolutely agree that, regardless of Floyd's criminal history, he DID NOT DERSERVE TO BE MURDERED by the scumbag cop. So, again, what is your beef?

quote:

No...perspective is what you need a lesson on.


This is the truly a great time to invoke the "people in glass houses..." phrase.

YOU are so outraged at Floyd's murder (as I am and most here) yet, in your myopic view about this one particular incident, you DO NOT have that same outrage at the MURDER of Officer David Dorn. Why is that? Why are you not outraged at the murder of a fine, upstanding law abiding AND enforcing AMERICAN (I don't mention his color because that is 100% insignificant). He was someone ALL Americans should admire who lived his life in a way that we should ALL try to emulate.

Why is that GREAT American's life not worth protesting? He even meets your group's requirement of being black. Is it because he was a cop? Or is it because he was not MURDERED by a white (non-black) person?

Why is George Floyd being held up as a pillar of moral society, yet David Dorn is only PRIMARILY being recognized by us racists who think everyone's life truly matters? Why are you not outraged at Officer Dorn's murder?

I really think you people could help the nation embrace your movement if you were more specific.

BLM should actually be BLMUHOSINACODNAWOA:

Black Lives Matter Unless He Or She Is Not A Cop Or Does Not Agree With Our Agenda.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22288 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:55 am to
George Floyd's death at the hands of an unstable police officer was totally wrong. His death, statistically, didn't even move the needle in regards to the national crime statistics already on the books at the time of his death that unequivocally show that whites are more likely to die during arrests than blacks.

Just shut up and read the stats.

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21564 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:55 am to
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Why? Don’t All Lives Matter?


Yes, which is why our legal system is currently prosecuting their killers.

quote:

See...when you go and post their criminal records...you’re saying their lives don’t matter...as much.


Criminal lives don't matter....as much. Officer Dean's life mattered more than Floyd or Aubrey. It's not a race thing, it's a what do you contribute to society thing.

If, from cradle to grave, all you've done is harm the society around you don't expect every member of that society to build monuments in your honor.
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 8:56 am
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22141 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:57 am to
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It’s about putting the circumstances of their deaths in perspective.

He’s mad because we refuse to trust the Democrat propaganda from their media. Some of us like to have all the facts, and that really angers people like the OP.
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