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re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic content
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:47 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:47 pm to NC_Tigah
AG Paxton is joining in by opening an investigation
https://twitter.com/alx/status/1726762096782659971
quote:
ALX
@alx
BREAKING: Texas Attorney General @KenPaxtonTX has opened an investigation into Media Matters for potential fraudulent activity
https://twitter.com/alx/status/1726762096782659971
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Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:48 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:Wouldn't that refresh the page?
Once the ads populated, Media Matters edited and/or deleted (curated) non-Nazi content,
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:48 pm to shel311
quote:
Specific to the lawsuit, does the fact that some real accounts saw it matter?
Not once it’s shown MM did this on purpose to harm X
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:49 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:Gotcha, thanks.
Not once it’s shown MM did this on purpose to harm X
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:51 pm to NC_Tigah
Where is cwill to tell us musk won’t do it.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:51 pm to shel311
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:51 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:
MM did this on purpose to harm X
Look into who owns MM
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:56 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
quote:
Chris Pavlovski
@chrispavlovski
X is not alone.
I can also confirm that Media Matters has purposely misrepresented Rumble. Their dishonesty warrants an immediate investigation at the highest levels (hint,
@SpeakerJohnson & @Jim_Jordan), and I’ll bring the receipts.
Here’s my statement:
https://twitter.com/chrispavlovski/status/1726745030470119588
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:58 pm to udtiger
quote:
They actually manufactured the story for the purpose of chasing off Xs advertisers.
quote:
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:58 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
I don’t see the legal significance of it.
MM manufactured a hit campaign against Musk and X, resulting in several major advertisers pulling their sponsorship, potentially costing Musk millions of dollars.
You don't see any legal significance there?
I'm no lawyer, but seems like what MM did was dishonest, possible fraudulent, and some people would call those lost advert dollars "damages"
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:59 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
They did this to Gab early on too.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:02 pm to CrimsonTideMD
quote:
MM manufactured a hit campaign against Musk and X, resulting in several major advertisers pulling their sponsorship, potentially costing Musk millions of dollars.
You don't see any legal significance there?
I'm no lawyer, but seems like what MM did was dishonest, possible fraudulent, and some people would call those lost advert dollars "damages"
My post was specific to whether real users saw the ads manufactured by MM.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:03 pm to CrimsonTideMD
quote:sounds like Larry Fink of Blackrock singlehandedly attacking Elon/X
It sounds like MM then pressured, extorted IBM to abandon X-ads. It did the same with several other companies. At the same time, MM aggressively pressured media-houses to cover the story. So when Musk justifiably called out the ADL as anti-white and racist, IBM finally caved. The dam broke. US media lurched into the story, and the other X-sponsoring companies withdrew in kind.
AND GOT CAUGHT REDHANDED.
Knock that slimey bitch out!
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:03 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
My post was specific to whether real users saw the ads manufactured by MM.
Which is relevant how, exactly?
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:04 pm to 19
exactly. I was responding to the Yacarino tweet Bunk posted. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:06 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
quote:
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
Fraud has both civil & criminal penalties
In response to Paxton's investigation
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:07 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Media Matters implied otherwise in their representations. They implied wide viewership. They created the accounts, they knew exactly, or nearly so what the thread viewership was.
I’m not sure how dispositive that will be ... Great PR point but I don’t see the legal significance of it.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:08 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:10 pm to Kjnstkmn
quote:Excellent!
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:10 pm to NC_Tigah
But the advertisers’ decisions were presumably based on the MM article itself, not that x amount of “authentic users” saw the ads in question.
We’re splitting hairs and I’m not arguing X wasn’t harmed. I just think their damages stem more from the publication of the article rather than if the offending ads were actually seen by the general public.
Just saw your edit… I haven’t read the underlying article. If MM presented it as widely viewed knowing how they manufactured it then it could come into play regarding liability and possibly punitives.
We’re splitting hairs and I’m not arguing X wasn’t harmed. I just think their damages stem more from the publication of the article rather than if the offending ads were actually seen by the general public.
Just saw your edit… I haven’t read the underlying article. If MM presented it as widely viewed knowing how they manufactured it then it could come into play regarding liability and possibly punitives.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 7:12 pm
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