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Wuhan Institute of Virology Created COVID-19-Like Virus In 2007
Posted on 3/29/20 at 5:06 am
Posted on 3/29/20 at 5:06 am
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Difference in Receptor Usage between Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) Coronavirus and SARS-Like Coronavirus of Bat Origin
Wuze Ren, Xiuxia Qu, Wendong Li, Zhenggang Han, Meng Yu, Peng Zhou, Shu-Yi Zhang, Lin-Fa Wang, Hongkui Deng, Zhengli Shi
15 November 2007
ABSTRACT
Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is caused by the SARS-associated coronavirus (SARS-CoV), which uses angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) as its receptor for cell entry. A group of SARS-like CoVs (SL-CoVs) has been identified in horseshoe bats. SL-CoVs and SARS-CoVs share identical genome organizations and high sequence identities, with the main exception of the N terminus of the spike protein (S), known to be responsible for receptor binding in CoVs. In this study, we investigated the receptor usage of the SL-CoV S by combining a human immunodeficiency virus-based pseudovirus system with cell lines expressing the ACE2 molecules of human, civet, or horseshoe bat. In addition to full-length S of SL-CoV and SARS-CoV, a series of S chimeras was constructed by inserting different sequences of the SARS-CoV S into the SL-CoV S backbone. Several important observations were made from this study. First, the SL-CoV S was unable to use any of the three ACE2 molecules as its receptor. ...
... a minimal insert region (amino acids 310 to 518) was found to be sufficient to convert the SL-CoV S from non-ACE2 binding to human ACE2 binding
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In this study, a human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)-based pseudovirus system was employed to address these issues. Our results indicated that the SL-CoV S protein is unable to use ACE2 proteins of different species for cell entry and that SARS-CoV S protein also failed to bind the ACE2 molecule of the horseshoe bat, Rhinolophus pearsonii. However, when the RBD of SL-CoV S was replaced with that from the SARS-CoV S, the hybrid S protein was able to use the huACE2 for cell entry
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CREDITS
This work was jointly funded by a State Key Program for Basic Research Grant (2005CB523004) from the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology, a special fund from the president of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (no. 1009), the Knowledge Innovation Program Key Project of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (KSCX1-YW-R-07) to Z. Shi, the Sixth Framework Program “EPISARS” of the European Commission, a National Nature Science Foundation of China for Creative Research group grant (30421004) to H. Deng, and the Australian Biosecurity CRC for Emerging Infectious Diseases (project 1.026RE) to L.-F. Wang.
Corresponding author. Mailing address for Z. Shi: State key Laboratory of Virology, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, Hubei 430071, China. Phone: (86-27)-87197240. Fax: (86-27)-87197240. E-mail: zlshi@wh.iov.cn.
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Posted on 3/29/20 at 5:11 am to NC_Tigah
So virology testing is akin to "let me take a knife to myself and slice my arm open to see if I bleed"? Let's go make some germs so we can hopefully find a cure to kill those germs. I guess I'm too stupid to understand that philosophy.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 5:19 am
Posted on 3/29/20 at 5:34 am to NC_Tigah
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... a minimal insert region (amino acids 310 to 518) was found to be sufficient to convert the SL-CoV S from non-ACE2 binding to human ACE2 binding
I had read the 2015 piece in Nature where they had created the chimeric version. This was not mentioned there. The news on "how" they did it is fascinating. Thanks for bringing it.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 5:36 am
Posted on 3/29/20 at 5:47 am to NC_Tigah
So why on earth would someone thinks it’s a good idea to manipulate a virus to make it invasive to the human body via the ACE2 protein? Just to prove it could be done? Also, since this was published in 2007, who reviews articles for this publication? How can this be news?
PS - my understanding is that folks on ACE inhibitors have a higher level ACE2 in their bodies lending some credence to their having a higher incidence of more severe symptoms.
PS - my understanding is that folks on ACE inhibitors have a higher level ACE2 in their bodies lending some credence to their having a higher incidence of more severe symptoms.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 5:50 am
Posted on 3/29/20 at 5:58 am to Dead End
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frick China
Of all the responses, kinda sums it up best.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:13 am to NC_Tigah
I work with viruses and my lab does these sort of experiments. This doesn’t proof at all COVID-19 was engineered as a bio weapon.
Just saying
Just saying
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:15 am to Northwestern tiger
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I work with viruses and my lab does these sort of experiments. This doesn’t proof at all COVID-19 was engineered as a bio weapon. Just saying
nuke your lab too
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:46 am to NC_Tigah
Are Chinese really just heirs of Dr. Mengele? Charge of crimes against humanity could be justified if ever a connection is found between a Chinese lab and Covid-19.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:58 am to Northwestern tiger
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I work with viruses and my lab does these sort of experiments. This doesn’t proof at all COVID-19 was engineered as a bio weapon.
Just saying
. . . . and?
We know CV19 is not a bioweapon, at least not one intentionally released.
Otherwise China would have a vaccine.
The question is whether it is a leaked product of one of their two Wuhan bioresearch labs. One of those labs, the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention, just happens to be located 280 meters from the infamous Hunan Seafood Market.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:34 am to NC_Tigah
I am not a scientist. What is the chance they were looking for a virus to target the elderly and infirm, those non productive in society.
Decrease the surplus population, just to see if it could be done, and it got out? Either accidentally or deliberately.
Cull the herd? Plenty of historical precedents for that.
Decrease the surplus population, just to see if it could be done, and it got out? Either accidentally or deliberately.
Cull the herd? Plenty of historical precedents for that.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:37 am to NC_Tigah
OP, this isn't anything new. Even labs here in the United States engineer viruses and other diseases to learn about them. It's the entire reason why we are developing quick tests in matter of weeks.
We went from the first cases confirmed in January to testing that can be done in 15 minues in mere weeks of lab testing/development. We know the genetic sequences of the covid viruses.
If Covid19 came around in 1918 like the Spanish Flu, it likely would have been as deadly or even more since it would have wipped out millions around the world with prior health issues. But with communication like it is today, we are able to shutoff access immediatly, saving lives.
We went from the first cases confirmed in January to testing that can be done in 15 minues in mere weeks of lab testing/development. We know the genetic sequences of the covid viruses.
If Covid19 came around in 1918 like the Spanish Flu, it likely would have been as deadly or even more since it would have wipped out millions around the world with prior health issues. But with communication like it is today, we are able to shutoff access immediatly, saving lives.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:41 am to uppermidwestbama
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If Covid19 came around in 1918 like the Spanish Flu, it likely would have been as deadly or even more since it would have wipped out millions around the world with prior health issues. But with communication like it is today, we are able to shutoff access immediatly, saving lives.
With communication like it is today we would have lost the first world war
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:45 am to dietcoke7
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I am not a scientist. What is the chance they were looking for a virus to target the elderly and infirm, those non productive in society.
And as a bonus, take out Trump's Base.
The Militarization of Bio Tech is inevitable; and the inadvertent loosing of such on the population as well. We all know what China is capable of; think Mao.
Fermi Paradox. Interesting times.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:02 am to NC_Tigah
Oh my god.
It’s actually true. They really did make it.
It’s actually true. They really did make it.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:04 am to NC_Tigah
Not discounting you, but how did you find that article? I tried searching on the ASM JoV and it doesn't show up.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:05 am to Diamondawg
quote:I've also seen where being on an ACE inhibitor may provide a protective effect. One theory suggests that the upregulation of ACE2 allows for too many virions to enter the cell at one time therefore overwhelming the cell's ability to help replicate the virus. The other suggests that the ACE2 is bound shut until Angiotensin2 approaches. If your Angiotensin2 is low because of an ACE Inhibitor, the ACE2 receptor stays bound shut longer because less Angiotensin2 is around.
- my understanding is that folks on ACE inhibitors have a higher level ACE2 in their bodies lending some credence to their having a higher incidence of more severe symptoms
Seems like almost completely opposite reasons for the proposed benefit.
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