re: WP: 76 Billion Opiates Legally Distributed in USA from 06-12

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It's ridiculous to blame anybody but the doctors,

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This is stupid. Doctors have been successfully sued for under treating pain. One of the toughest judgement calls for a doctor deals with who truly needs pain meds and who is malingering. People can have genuine severe back pain with little pathology seen on an MRI.

The lies mostly with the patients who aren't honest with themselves or the doctor about what they really need to manage the current level of pain. If they don't get what they want, they doctor shop, throw fits in the office or threaten legal action.

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If they don't get what they want, they doctor shop, throw fits in the office or threaten legal action.

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And? This is why you think it’s ok for docs to overprescribe these drugs?

I think they all share in the blame, if we are pointing fingers.

-FDA is a joke
-Pharma companies had a priority of boosting profits while misleading doctors about the addiction risks
-Doctors are absolutely to be held responsible
-Addicts who succumbed to addition

This whole mess has caused country-wide pain to our collective community, and as one poster put it, there is hardly a family in America who has not been effected in one way or the other.

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Not seeing how it's their fault

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Paintents just take what's recommended to them.

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That's naive as frick.

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Then they get addicted to the opioids because the pharmaceutical companies are assholes.

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So no opiates. Deal with that severe pain with Tylenol or ibuprofen.

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I don't think you understand how addiction works.

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I understand how addiction works. I buy a can of dip pouches every third day or so because I am addicted to nicotine, which started when I was about 15 years old.

In the timeframe of the lawsuit, I was prescribed some form of opiate at least a dozen times. A few surgeries, wisdom teeth extraction, bad flu, sinus infection (coedine cough syrup).

The stuff makes you feel good. I also know that it is addictive, and you can't keep taking it to kill your emotional pain or anxiety, because you'll get hooked.

Sure, there's a minority of people who need some relief from chronic pain who are prescribed some cocktail of those meds. But for them, the alternative is severe physical pain. That is a rational choice.

It's like alcoholism. People who fall into that trap would fall into another one if booze was illegal. I have an alcoholic in my family who has always run from his problems and discomfort, and been enabled along the way.

He chooses addiction on some level, because its not as scary as actually facing your demons.

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And? This is why you think it’s ok for docs to overprescribe these drugs? That's why I think most of the problem is the responsibility of the patients. Those are ways to manipulate into getting extra pills. If you think it's easy to discern who's honest and to confront all of those situation s perfectly, you're ignorant. Most docs aren't over prescribing the drug. Hence, the money made by pill mill docs. Those are the docs who should be flogged.

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Then we agree. I don’t think Docs should subscribe them for most things. My teen just had oral surgery and they gave him 20 hydrocodones. He tried a half one and said he didn’t need it. He didn’t ask for them. Opioids are still oversubscribed by non pill mill doctors.

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I've had four surgeries where I was prescribed these types of pills. I took the absolute minimum I needed and never came close to getting addicted.

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Did they give you substantially more than you needed?

Wmr, I have bad news.

McKesson (distributor) was recently sued and settled out of court because as a distributor, "they should have detected abnormally high orders to pill mills and stopped it, therefore negligent "

Want the painful punchline?

They actually reported every transaction to the DEA as required by law... and the DEA is who sued them!!!!!

Im not making this up.

60 Minutes did a whole thing on it last year.

That's your teen and one anecdote. I've had times when I tried one and I decided I didn't need it and then two other times when I absolutely did. But, I didn't keep going back and feigning pain when it had passed.