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Would you feel safe visiting London, Paris, or

Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:03 pm
Would you feel safe visiting London, Paris, Rome or any other major city if about 60 people were shot there every weekend? Seems like something radical needs to be done in Chicago. I wonder how their numbers compare with Baghdad or Cairo?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115890 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:04 pm to
Not really, but the Chicago violence is so self-contained its kind of crazy.

I've never felt even remotely unsafe in Chicago, but I also don't ever go anywhere near any of those neighborhoods.
Posted by ScarletFire
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2016
627 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:04 pm to
Chicago is the shining example of urban liberalism in this country
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3629 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:06 pm to
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Would you feel safe visiting London, Paris, Rome or any other major city if about 60 people were shot there every weekend?


If I knew they weren't shooting right at the Eiffel Tower, like I know they aren't shooting at Wrigley Field and on Madison.

I visit New Orleans frequently, I just know better to stray into the shitty areas. French Quarter is worse than nearly any tourist place in Chicago, but yet, there I am........
Posted by a want
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:08 pm to
far more people are shot in America than Europe
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105413 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:08 pm to
I flew into Chicago for an interview in September and took a long walk. I had no idea where I was or walking, but I never heard a gunshot, and returned safely to my Hotel after eating dinner.

I will admit I was on high alert during my walk....
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

Not really, but the Chicago violence is so self-contained its kind of crazy.


It is pretty amazing. Tons of the gangs are killing eachother. The people in the city really aren't too fearful. Once that drifts into the nice 'hoods though, watch out.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33406 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Would you feel safe visiting London, Paris, Rome or any other major city if about 60 people were shot there every weekend? Seems like something radical needs to be done in Chicago. I wonder how their numbers compare with Baghdad or Cairo?
And yet amazingly, Chicago is only back to where it was in the late 90's (when the downtrend in violence had already begun in earnest.)
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:21 pm to
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Chicago is the shining example of urban liberalism in this country



Nope. Chicago is a shining example of the slow and steady decline of black inner city neighborhoods into self contained third world countries. You shouldn't confuse liberalism with government dependence.

If you wan't a shining example of urban liberalism check out most cities in the annual best cities to live or best cities to raise a family. You'll find most of those cities are liberal in the truer sense of the word.
Posted by LSUFANMICK
Colorado Springs
Member since Sep 2009
1222 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:36 pm to
I've been to all three of those cities recently. Paris just a few weeks ago and London just a few days ago. Rome was over a year ago. Paris was sketchy in a few areas. London has no-go areas. The major areas to stay away from that seem sketchy are the area that the refugees have been resettled in. The only problems I have with these cities is the refugees hounding you to buys the cheap crappy souvenir's. As long as I was warned where not to go, I would feel OK in Chicago....
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9600 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:40 pm to
I have a trip panned to chicago now actally. Ive gone a lot during the summer. Never felt threatened
Posted by ScarletFire
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2016
627 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:41 pm to
That's a good point. Seattle and Portland are both super liberal places that are great to live in, but location does help them out quite a bit too.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:43 pm to
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far more people are shot in America than Europe




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Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8004 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 2:43 pm to
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I visit New Orleans frequently, I just know better to stray into the shitty areas. French Quarter is worse than nearly any tourist place in Chicago, but yet, there I am........


New Orleans is much more violent per capita than Chicago. Ditto Baton Rouge. And St. Louis, Cleveland, Memphis, Milwaukee, and lots of other American cities.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58132 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:00 pm to
Quit being a vagina.
I feel safe in Nola and the crime is pretty scattered.
I sure as hell could figure out how to stay safe in Chicago as could anyone with half of a brain.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115890 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:05 pm to
Yeah, NOLA is far more dangerous unfortunately. The crime and violence spreads out and is not as self-contained.

Chicago it pretty much all literally happens in very select shithole neighborhoods.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

I sure as hell could figure out how to stay safe in Chicago as could anyone with half of a brain.


That's a lot of brain to ask of some of our fellow Americans
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76334 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:09 pm to
Stay out of south Chicago and it's a great city. Unlike NOLA where the bad areas are marbled throughout the city.

European cities are bad for pick pockets but the chances of getting shot are slim.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8004 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Stay out of south Chicago and it's a great city. Unlike NOLA where the bad areas are marbled throughout the city.


The far Southside and the near Westside is where the great majority of the violence happens. The near Southside (South Loop, the area near Soldier Field, Chinatown, Bridgeport, basically all the neighborhoods down Lakeshore to Kenwood and Hyde Park) range from decent to very upscale. You have to get about five miles south of downtown to get into some real trouble and the worst of it is about ten miles south of downtown, and even then, there are some great areas in the far Southside as well (Beverly, Mount Greenwood, Morgan Park).

The near Westside is what has gotten so very bad in the last few years. Austin, Garfield Park, Lawndale, and West Humboldt Park - an incredible amount of violence concentrated into a pretty small area.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:21 pm to
Oh my wife told me last week after the Berlin terrorist attack, that she would feel safer taking our kid to Argentina or Chile or certain parts of Peru for a family vacation before we went to Europe. That might be a little hyperbole, but its certainly the way things are trending.
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