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Would you accept free Google internet if it meant only seeing Google results?
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:06 pm
If net neutrality is going the way of the dinosaurs, it means that private companies can offer info however they see fit.
If Google created a national ISP and charged nothing but you could only see results Google approved, would you accept it?
For example, if you used a Google search but it wouldn't list competitor websites would you participate?
If Google created a national ISP and charged nothing but you could only see results Google approved, would you accept it?
For example, if you used a Google search but it wouldn't list competitor websites would you participate?
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 10:37 am
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:07 pm to mahdragonz
Only daddy government can choose what I see. Duh.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:08 pm to mahdragonz
I would like to see google get fricked in the arse.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:10 pm to mahdragonz
No
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:10 pm to mahdragonz
Google's already been caught manipulating their searches to favored sites. And that was with NN in place.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:10 pm to Evolved Simian
Is that a problem?
This post was edited on 11/25/17 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:12 pm to mahdragonz
quote:
it means that private companies can offer info however they see fit.
They already do, ace.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:14 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:
Google's already been caught manipulating their searches to favored sites. And that was with NN in place.
You can use a different search engine though. Google for most is the content not the gateway to content, since google fiber is in limited markets.
ISPs are the gateway and giving them the ability to censor what they want, when they are the only game in town is going to lead to problems.
Regardless having your ISP controlling what you can get to it bad news.
Services like PS Vue and Sling TV are about to get fricked by ISPs if NN is taken away.
This post was edited on 11/25/17 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:20 pm to mahdragonz
Why would Google manipulate search results and alienate ~50% of their potential customer base?
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:22 pm to cameronml
quote:
Why would Google manipulate search results and alienate ~50% of their potential customer base?
Because it would be free.
So if some one googled tiger droppings they would get a good search but if they googled Comcast they wouldn't.
This post was edited on 11/25/17 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:23 pm to cameronml
quote:
Why would Google manipulate search results and alienate ~50% of their potential customer base?
You can't be serious
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:56 pm to cameronml
Have you read a newspaper, or watched a network newscast in the past two years? Have you watched a Hollywood awards show, or at least heard about it after the fact? Have you endured a water cooler chat about the resistance?
Posted on 11/25/17 at 11:02 pm to mahdragonz
No
Posted on 11/25/17 at 11:38 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:Got a link?
Google's already been caught manipulating their searches to favored sites. And that was with NN in place.
Also, "manipulating" search results is absolutely NOT a violation of net neutrality principles. All search results are "manipulated", otherwise they'd be basically useless.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 12:47 am to Korkstand
Posted on 11/26/17 at 1:12 am to Jjdoc
Thanks.
Your first link is about Google violating Europe's antitrust rules. There is no mention of NN as it is not an NN issue, and any US NN rules wouldn't apply there, anyway. The article also says that the US closed its similar antitrust probe without significant penalty.
Your second link just provides a lot of evidence for how strongly the right hates Google. Normal, average people go to Google for their searches, whereas right-wing google-hating nutjobs use bing, yahoo, and duckduckgo to do all of their Hillary searches because they hate Google, and their respective machine learning algorithms reflect those differing groups of users. But of course the conspiracy theorist crazy asses can't draw that obvious conclusion because they are too busy accusing Google of manipulating every possible thing.
Your first link is about Google violating Europe's antitrust rules. There is no mention of NN as it is not an NN issue, and any US NN rules wouldn't apply there, anyway. The article also says that the US closed its similar antitrust probe without significant penalty.
Your second link just provides a lot of evidence for how strongly the right hates Google. Normal, average people go to Google for their searches, whereas right-wing google-hating nutjobs use bing, yahoo, and duckduckgo to do all of their Hillary searches because they hate Google, and their respective machine learning algorithms reflect those differing groups of users. But of course the conspiracy theorist crazy asses can't draw that obvious conclusion because they are too busy accusing Google of manipulating every possible thing.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 2:05 am to mahdragonz
quote:
Is that a problem?
If Google had extreme right views would you accept the results?
You assholes only see things based on your party and always miss the big picture. You can't see two steps ahead.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 2:24 am to mahdragonz
Of course not. Any ISP differentiating between 0s and 1s is a travesty
Posted on 11/26/17 at 9:55 am to mahdragonz
Sure, I only use Google for internet searches anyway, so why not go free.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:12 am to cameronml
quote:That 50% is probably a majority of global searches.
Why would Google manipulate search results and alienate ~50% of their potential customer base?
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