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re: Would somebody please accurately quantify the HB1 numbers?

Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:00 pm to
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If we actually enforced the law, we could probably contract the H1B program because the people who should be here on H1B represent a tiny fraction of who IS here on H1B.


Bingo.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:00 pm to
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Don't tell him the truth. He gets really pissy when you confront him with the truth.


yeah, it doesnt take many computer skills to find these answers. Seems silly to argue against it.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 2:01 pm
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
25746 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:01 pm to
This will be a part of Homan's scope right? It should be cleaned up pretty quick.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7616 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:01 pm to
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What is the functional difference between an illegal immigrant or an H1B immigrant getting a job instead of an American worker?


One is documented and must pay taxes and the other is not.

An illegal can get a job, and 0 out their employee withholdings even if it's w2.

Pretty significant difference.

H1b numbers are microscopic compared to illegal immigration.

This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33267 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:04 pm to
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Well, I tried to link the document for you. The calculations are laid out clearly, and the average was about 600k until the pandemic

Give it another try.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58624 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:06 pm to
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Pretty significant difference.


Not to someone who needs a job.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60595 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:06 pm to
My old apartment complex didn't become little India overnight because they only let in 3000 a year.

And it's not like Lafayette is a big tech center.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:07 pm to
LINK


Methodology is explained in 2.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22973 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:10 pm to
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My old apartment complex didn't become little India overnight because they only let in 3000 a year.


I was actually under the impression that it was a straight lottery weighted by highest salary now.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20885 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:12 pm to
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Methodology is explained in 2.

Which is funny. Why do they need to devise methodology and make all sorts of assumptions for this? Why can't they just count the number of H1Bs granted and the number of H1Bs expired that resulted in the holder leaving the country?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38715 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:13 pm to
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yeah, it doesnt take many computer skills to find these answers. Seems silly to argue against it.


Can you post a link?
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22973 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:14 pm to
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And it's not like Lafayette is a big tech center.


Well, we bring in Indians through the other visa processes. I'd expect that Lafayette would be more student than anything.

It's not uncommon for a nationality to congregate in an apartment complex, especially students. Be glad they weren't Somali.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131503 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:15 pm to
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Immigration will always be a thing. No clue why republicans are fighting over this.
They are being gaslit.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:16 pm to
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Can you post a link?


He's shown that he can't.

*And then fixed by posting the link to OBReb's source.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60595 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:16 pm to
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Well, we bring in Indians through the other visa processes. I'd expect that Lafayette would be more student than anything.

Nope. They came here to run the convenience store networks and hotels.

They aren't here to assimilate. They're here to take over shite.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22973 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:18 pm to
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Why can't they just count the number of H1Bs granted and the number of H1Bs expired that resulted in the holder leaving the country?


Many leave before theirs expires, and don't show up in the AUB until they renew. It can take a long time to see that. You get 6 years on the initial, and can apply for 4 single year extensions. Also, they aren't guaranteed renewal.

My guess is they've got that 600k pegged as a target, and know that through attrition or even eventual conversion to permanent resident 85k is the number that roughly equals the churn.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22973 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:22 pm to
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One is documented and must pay taxes and the other is not.

An illegal can get a job, and 0 out their employee withholdings even if it's w2.

Pretty significant difference.

H1b numbers are microscopic compared to illegal immigration.



^^^

Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22973 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:30 pm to
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They came here to run the convenience store networks and hotels.


Not the hotels. Indians usually live in the ones they own. They don't rent apartments when they own hotels. Cstore owners probably do.

I don't mind business owners much either, but these guys are also the ones that cause most of the problems that people associate with Indian immigrants. They commit shitloads of wage and hour violations.

They don't commit any violent crime, though, so we end up favoring them over a lot of countries.

quote:

They're here to take over shite.


They aren't going to take over anything by buying Cstores, except for some more Cstores. I believe we had some here go to jail a couple of years ago for paying cash for snap benefits.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 2:39 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20885 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:35 pm to
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They are being gaslit.

Who is? The group that's pretending there aren't 20 million able-bodied Americans sitting the work thing out?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60595 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:37 pm to
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Not the hotels. Indians usually live in the ones they own. They don't rent apartments when they own hotels.
No, some did. The apts were a lot nicer than the hotel rooms, I guess.

As for the convenience store personnel, they have been a drain on the average Joe because the formula has been to take over and jack the prices way up because people are willing to pay more for convenience. This causes companies in general to jack up their prices because they now know they can get away with it.

And that's how you get $2.35 20oz Sprites.
This post was edited on 12/31/24 at 8:36 pm
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