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Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:07 am to xiv
This is not a new concept. A murder occurred during the commission of a crime. The murder on demand crowd want to make an issue of it, but the truth is, had the pregnant woman not given someone reason to defend themselves, the baby would most likely be alive.
This post was edited on 6/30/19 at 11:12 am
Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:09 am to troyt37
He doesn't see the baby as a person and that's the real issue.
Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:11 am to Bestbank Tiger
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This is unrelated to the abortion law.
It absoutly is related. is killing a fetus murder or not?
You cannot be charged for murder in Colorado for the death of a fetus wether or not the mother is killed.
Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:12 am to xiv
I don’t get the manslaughter charge for the mother...maybe child endangerment.
Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:15 am to cwill
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maybe child endangerment.
So you agree it's a "child". Good. We have some common ground to work with.
Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:21 am to cwill
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I don’t get the manslaughter charge for the mother...maybe child endangerment.
The mother’s actions resulted in the death of her baby. I don’t think there is a lesser charge, when you’re talking about someone who is responsible for the death of another.
Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:25 am to troyt37
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The mother’s actions resulted in the death of her baby. I don’t think there is a lesser charge, when you’re talking about someone who is responsible for the death of another.
Did the mother pull the trigger?
Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:30 am to mahdragonz
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Did the mother pull the trigger?
It doesn’t matter, any more than it matters who pulled the trigger in a convenience store robbery.
Ain’t no stupid like the purposefully stupid.
Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:38 am to troyt37
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It doesn’t matter, any more than it matters who pulled the trigger in a convenience store robbery.
Ain’t no stupid like the purposefully stupid.
So your wife goes into a convenience store with your 5 year old kid.
A robber comes in and points a gun at her and says to give him all her money.
She says no and he shoots your kid.
Is your wife responsible for causing the shooting? She escalated it.
Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:47 am to mahdragonz
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So your wife goes into a convenience store with your 5 year old kid.
A robber comes in and points a gun at her and says to give him all her money.
She says no and he shoots your kid.
Is your wife responsible for causing the shooting? She escalated it.
Like I said, purposefully stupid. The phrase “a robber comes in” should give a pretty good indication, even for those with a room temperature IQ.
Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:52 am to mahdragonz
Well in that case the robber instigated it.
Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:53 am to NoisyNinja79
I really am psyched about the newfound care of the unborn by leftists though.
Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:58 am to mahdragonz
Please stop dragging everyone down with your stupidity
Posted on 6/30/19 at 12:40 pm to xiv
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The can of worms has opened in Alabama.
What can of worms? Someone died during the commission of a crime and whomever is responsible for the crime is responsible for the death. Courts have long heals this to be standard - rob a bank and the guard shoots your coconspirator then you, not the guard, are charged with murder.
Posted on 6/30/19 at 12:48 pm to mahdragonz
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So your wife goes into a convenience store with your 5 year old kid.
A robber comes in and points a gun at her and says to give him all her money.
She says no and he shoots your kid.
Is your wife responsible for causing the shooting? She escalated it.
If the robber had an accomplice, they are as responsible for the murder as the one who actually pulled the trigger.
And that's a good law.
Posted on 6/30/19 at 1:07 pm to Homesick Tiger
The mother put the fetus in danger by her own actions.
The person attacked isn’t obligated to not defend herself just because the attacker was pregnant
The person attacked isn’t obligated to not defend herself just because the attacker was pregnant
Posted on 6/30/19 at 1:46 pm to Lou Pai
quote:Circumstances. Think—don’t feel.
Different how?
Just a clump of cells, right?
Posted on 6/30/19 at 1:53 pm to troyt37
quote:This isn’t true, and no one is charged with murder here.
A murder occurred during the commission of a crime.
Everybody seems to think that their personal opinion matters here. This is an obviously cloudy issue, legally speaking. None of us is certain how the law is to be applied in this case—that’s pretty much why it’s news. Nobody cares what any of you think about women and their fetuses.
Posted on 6/30/19 at 2:08 pm to xiv
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This isn’t true, and no one is charged with murder here.
The charge of murder isn’t required for a murder to have happened. A life was ended at the hands of another.
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This is an obviously cloudy issue, legally speaking. None of us is certain how the law is to be applied in this case—that’s pretty much why it’s news. Nobody cares what any of you think about women and their fetuses.
You’re projecting. There’s nothing cloudy here, for those with a brain. The pregnant attacker got her child killed in the commission of a crime. She is responsible for that death. People have a right to self defense, and a life was ended. Who is responsible? Certainly not the person defending themselves. Kind of narrows it down, doesn’t it?
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