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re: Will the Webb Telescope convince the heathen liberals that there is a God?
Posted on 7/12/22 at 7:06 pm to Gaggle
Posted on 7/12/22 at 7:06 pm to Gaggle
quote:The biggest social conservative in the entire Continental Congress said that. They ranged from him at one end to deists and near-atheists at the other end of the spectrum.
They said it was made only for a Christian, moral people
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Posted on 7/12/22 at 7:06 pm to Gaggle
Everything on earth can be rationalized. Every position any person can possibly think of could be rationalized. Those who rationalize killing babies, or normalizing pedophilia, or maybe going to war with China are going to make their arguments, to huge millions of impressionable minds repeatedly. Without a set of rules from God, we can go absolutely anywhere. To the sickest most depraved savagery. There is nothing to say it's wrong, except what? another rationalization from you? That is the lack of foundation. Atheism ultimately is nihilism is utter amorality. It can't be escaped
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 7/12/22 at 7:10 pm to Gaggle
I actually believe almost all vocal atheists and agnostics are rationalizing their sin which came first. They want to sin without guilt, so they convince themselves God isn't real. Their zealousness is actually an argument with themselves, with God. It's part of the process, it's exactly how they were supposed to come to it, it wouldn't have been as real for them if they had just conformed and God knew that. But the thing about Pauls is they end up even more outspoken for God having been Sauls before.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 7:57 pm to AggieHank86
It's just insane that you said I'm typical, and called me a pox. I'm not a Trumpkin, a DeSantite, a Republican. I don't vote or believe in political parties or government. I'm a crazy religious fanatic prepper homeschooling my kids out in the middle of nowhere. You dumbass.
And you want to tell the class that I'm typical, and you know this because you are a 60 year white male conservative Texan. There's not a chance I believe that. You could not be more laughably out of touch.
And you want to tell the class that I'm typical, and you know this because you are a 60 year white male conservative Texan. There's not a chance I believe that. You could not be more laughably out of touch.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 8:14 pm to Gaggle
Again their interpretations with limited ( very) knowledge. That knowledge would be mostly all opinions
Posted on 7/12/22 at 8:21 pm to Nosevens
Knowledge is exactly what was promised from the beginning. I don't accept whatever it has supposedly paid off. As far as space, 100 years of some cool pictures to look at and really neat concepts to talk about. How much knowledge the modern world has bore to make our lives better, is in my opinion highly overrated. It's overrated on purpose, you think science beat God. They intended for you to think that from the beginning.
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 7/12/22 at 8:24 pm to Sid E Walker
Seek and you will find. If you read the Bible with the intent to discredit it, you have to make some assumptions. The fact that people seek to disprove His existence and His Word, which is the same yesterday, today, and forever- only further cements the undeniable existence of the God of Abraham.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 8:42 pm to weagle99
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All evidence is to the contrary. At least for intelligent life similar to ours.
Read up on how many things have to be exactly just so for us to be here. Not that common.
Considering what little we know of the universe (something like .0000000000001%), and numbers alone, the likelihood of many areas of the universe just like ours to exist is actually quite high. Even in our own solar system, there are planetary satellites that could be habitable to man if they were but closer to the sun.
But I only said "life", not necessarily "life as we know it" (carbon-based life). Anyone with any religious belief already subscribes to the idea that a spiritual realm exists, which vastly transcends our scientific knowledge.
The very universe itself may well be a living, breathing entity of a complexity that we just don't have the cerebral capacity to fathom. That's conjecture, but just a random example.
Personally, I've always felt that if we discovered any other form of life that isn't/hasn't already been here on Earth, we probably wouldn't even recognize it as life, from a scientific standpoint. Basically, I'm of the belief that some other life in this vast space would be undetectable by any means we possess. Again, conjecture and speculation, but just what I've always imagined. We developed very specifically over millions of years, to perceive things as they are here on Earth. Entities from other places may be entirely imperceptible.
I mean, some of the pictures from Hubbell back in the day are looking so far back in time that they're just a few million years later than "The Big Bang"/Creation. The first images from Webb are from a time in the past when this rock we currently reside upon was a bunch of chunks of space trash gravitating toward one another to form our eventual home 4 billion years later.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:32 pm to TigerAxeOK
Or maybe it's not the past and it's just the endless universe known as space. They use time to measure travel, so technically they can point it in the other direction and see the future in theory. This is all BS all they are looking at are rocks in this present time eleventy billion miles away...not some big bang or some pebble that earth started from lol
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:35 pm to beerJeep
We are not alone and he did create us in his own image. Heck the sons of God found the daughters of men to be beautiful and came upon them. Need I say more?
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:07 am to burke985
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Or maybe it's not the past and it's just the endless universe known as space
As a universal rule, light travels at a certain speed and that's how they estimate distance/time.
Not sure how one would "reverse" that process. If you're looking at something 100,000,000 light years away and then instantaneously travel to that point, it will look much different because 100 million years have passed. Now if you're at that point and look back towards the point where you came from, again you'd be looking at the past, because 100 million years worth of light hasn't made it to your current point in space yet. Travel through space =/= travel through time, unless you can find a way to "fold space" on top of itself and punch a hole through which to pass (wormhole theory). Other than that, the known rules of space/time are finite.
Gravity can and does, however, bend light. And intensity gravity, such as that of a supermassive black hole, actually prevents light from escaping altogether. Black holes just appear as massive bright lights because they have hundreds of millions of years worth of light trapped at their event horizons.
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