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Will it be okay if Trump uses the FBI and the FISA court to spy on his 2020 opponent?

Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:27 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:27 am
Asking for a friend.

Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:28 am to
We should ask James Comey in order to get an honest answer.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:29 am to
Apparently it's not a big deal.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:30 am to
Yes, it’s called opposition research
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:30 am to
Was it ok when his campaign finance violation was less than a 1/10th of Obamas which his own justice department declined to prosecute?

Was it ok when his extended business's contacts with Russia were less than Saudi Arabia, Russia, and Iran's direct contact and contributions to Hillary's campaign?

Was it ok for Keith Ellison to keep his job at the DNC after the #metoo movement against Kavanaugh?

Was it ok when he said he wanted to deport illegals after Obama set a record deporting illegals?

Was it ok when he put illegal families in giant nice gyms after Obama put them in cages?

Was it ok for Trump to call Hillary a nasty woman after she called all of his supporters Deplorables?

Was it ok for Trump to use executive orders after Obama used them?

Was it ok for black people to have a public opinion different from the DNC party line?

Was it ok for Trump to make a pussy joke after Clinton raped women?

Was it ok for Trump to say "lock her up" considering the #impeach movement and Mueller?

Was it ok for Trump to suggest he would challenge the results of the election considering #resist #notmypresident and #endtheelectoralcollege?

Was it ok got Russia to buy some Facebook ads considering the Hillary campaign and DNC rigging the primaries and debates?

Was it ok for Trump to have a business contact in Russia after Hillary paid foreign intelligence agencies to create a secret bullshite report in order to work with the Obama intellegnce community to wiretap a private citizen for political reasons?

Was it ok for the general population to read Wikileaks considering how much CNN and NBC publish leaked whitehouse information?
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 8:46 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146550 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:30 am to
tit for tat. I vote yes. wiretapp the Obama mansions-especially the DC one and he will find out everything he needs to know about Obama prepping Beto.

BTW: Beto has committed collusion with Russia.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:30 am to
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Yes, it’s called opposition research
Posted by TurkeyBaconLeg
Houston
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:30 am to
What makes you think that Trump and his DOJ isn't already using FISA? (But in a legal way)

/Huber and IG investigations say "hello"...
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146550 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:36 am to
Trump should order his FBI/DOJ/RNC to all pitch in and pay for a Russian spy to form a dossier; and say that Beto went to Russia got some hookers--- and made them pee in the bed that Trump slept in.

The more ludicrous the better, the FISA court judges can all get swanky passes to the Trump Golf Resort.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 8:50 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:36 am to
Apparently this isn't frowned upon anymore.

He's also going to:

1) take hundreds of millions of dollars from foreign governments for favors

2) rig his own debates

3) rig his own primaries

4) enlist the entirety of the MSM to bash his opponents 98% of the time

5) Recruit foreign intelligence agents to concoct wild stories about his opponents

6) Ask the government of Ukraine to dig up political dirt on his opponents.

7) Use ALL 17 US intelligence agencies to conjure up a fake investigation into his opponents

8) Destroy all electronic devices containing evidence of said frickery

9) Meet with his Attorney General in an airport hanger and promise a USSC seat for looking the other way in said frickery

Y'all want me to keep going?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23141 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:39 am to
quote:

Was it ok when his campaign finance violation was less than a 1/10th of Obamas?


Even if you accept this was a campaign violation it was a loan, so the donation is the implied interest on the loan, we're likely talking 100s of dollars in interest
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146550 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:00 am to
Trump's campaign violation is peanuts. They would have to lock up all of DC. (and if any R's try to gut Trump with this the majority of deplorable voters will be PISSED.)

OUR FBI/DOJ via the DNC/Obama and HRC campaign: paid a Russian spy for aiding and abetting sedition and political espionage and spying on American souls without a proper affidavit.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:03 am to
Only if he uses at least $15 million in campaign funds to hire Russians to manufacture a fraudulent dosiier to present to the FISA court.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24724 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:04 am to
He should use the IRS as well. dims didn't seem to mind when Jug Ears did it.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:05 am to
As much as he can from sing sing prison in upstate ny.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:07 am to
No.

Its not ok in past, the present, or future.

Why do you propose doing what you disapprove?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118670 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:10 am to
quote:

What makes you think that Trump and his DOJ isn't already using FISA? (But in a legal way)


I'm certain they are using FISA in the legal way.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48099 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:10 am to
quote:

As much as he can from sing sing prison in upstate ny.


I’d love for you to describe, specifically, what you think he will go to jail in New York for. Not a single one of your predictions regarding Trump have come to fruition. What makes you think you have it right this time?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118670 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:11 am to
quote:

He's also going to:

1) take hundreds of millions of dollars from foreign governments for favors

2) rig his own debates

3) rig his own primaries

4) enlist the entirety of the MSM to bash his opponents 98% of the time

5) Recruit foreign intelligence agents to concoct wild stories about his opponents

6) Ask the government of Ukraine to dig up political dirt on his opponents.

7) Use ALL 17 US intelligence agencies to conjure up a fake investigation into his opponents

8) Destroy all electronic devices containing evidence of said frickery

9) Meet with his Attorney General in an airport hanger and promise a USSC seat for looking the other way in said frickery



Precedent has been set. This is now normal and legal conduct.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 9:13 am
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:13 am to
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