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Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:41 pm to TigerDoc
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zoonotic disease is still considered the most likely cause by the relevant experts
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U.S. agency's revised assessment is based on new intelligence. WASHINGTON—The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic most likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a classified intelligence report recently provided to the White House and key members of Congress.Feb 26, 2023
This con is long since over. What you people tarred as conspiracy theory turned out to be truth. "Truth is incontrovertible. Panic may resent it. Ignorance may deride it. Malice may distort it. But there it is."
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:41 pm to roadGator
It's an almost completely rationalized belief for people with high degrees of political identification at this point. If the authorities flipped positions, people would eventually settle into the opposite belief.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:42 pm to TigerDoc
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zoonotic disease is still considered the most likely cause by the relevant experts
Lololololololololol
You mean the people dependent upon funding of their research by the NIH and WHO?
Those experts.
They sound super unbiased.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:43 pm to TigerDoc
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but I still think we generally adopt beliefs mostly similarly from trusted sources
Well then the question is why so many "Trusted sources" ran out to attack the lab leak theory, and the answer became 1 of 2 things: (1) "Trusted sources" and NGOS bowing down to China (for funding purposes, most often) or (2) Partisan side identification (Because the left adopted the "blind faith in approved, trusted sources" partisan identification)
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:43 pm to TigerDoc
quote:you trust "sources" that systematically silence any dissent because it affirms your beliefs. Those should never be trusted with anything
we generally adopt beliefs mostly similarly from trusted sources, we just trust different sources.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:43 pm to UncleFestersLegs
that's the US Energy Department. Health agencies are more relevant in the trust hierarchies for libs. That won't budge them.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:43 pm to TigerDoc
Sure sure.
When was your last booster?
When was your last booster?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
That's fair. I don't disagree.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:45 pm to roadGator
What if I told you I was boosting RIGHT NOW???
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:45 pm to TigerDoc
You’re just making up shite about things you don’t know anything about.
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The Department of Energy’s Office of Intelligence and Counterintelligence is one of 18 government agencies that make up the intelligence community, which are under the umbrella of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:46 pm to TigerDoc
Your patients? I’d believe that in a second.
I understand your reticence.
Silence is enough for me.
I understand your reticence.
Silence is enough for me.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:46 pm to the808bass
I'm really not.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:or both. The simplest explanation is that like horse paste, OMB promoted the lab leak so that had to be systematically discredited by "experts" with the same fervor as the the authenticity of hunters laptop. Both of which failed in the end as most lies eventually do
the answer became 1 of 2 things: (1) "Trusted sources" and NGOS bowing down to China (for funding purposes, most often) or (2) Partisan side identification (Because the left adopted the "blind faith in approved, trusted sources" partisan identification)
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:51 pm to TigerDoc
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That's fair. I don't disagree.
And let's be honest, tons of "Trusted sources" really hurt their reputations from 2016 onward.
We can work backwards and start with the "50 intelligence operatives say Hunter Biden's laptop is classic Russian disinformation" or whatever. We know that's 100% bullshite now and they were literally acting partisan.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:52 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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Both of which failed in the end as most lies eventually do
Well the lab leak discrediting wasn't really a lie. More of an overconfident presumption.
The biggest issue was we didn't really know and taking a stance on either side was silly...but in the hyper polarized political climate that's developed, sheep feel the need to pick sides.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:55 pm to TigerDoc
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I'm really not.
Sure you are. You saw “Energy Department” and missed the whole thing that it is a report from a government intelligence agency. And you would discredit it a different way if it came from a different source.
Tell us more about Russian collusion.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:55 pm to TigerDoc
quote:God fauci had admitted the lab leak is credible. Is there a single "trust hierarchy" left that still labels it a conspiracy theory?
that's the US Energy Department. Health agencies are more relevant in the trust hierarchies for libs. That won't budge them.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:taking sides is everyone's prerogative. Actively censoring any and all dissent and attempting to destroy dissenters is a bridge too far and that's exactly what happened.
The biggest issue was we didn't really know and taking a stance on either side was silly
Posted on 1/12/24 at 5:00 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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taking sides is everyone's prerogative.
No. You can sit it out until actual evidence comes out.
Also, taking a partisan side is never necessary.
This sort of decision-making should be left to the individual.
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Actively censoring any and all dissent and attempting to destroy dissenters is a bridge too far and that's exactly what happened
That's a different conversation entirely
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