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re: Why Trumpsigned EO to end birthright citizenship
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:54 am to ljhog
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:54 am to ljhog
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But, the argument before the Supreme Court will be fascinating.
Not particularly.
This will be the same boring shite as when Leftists argue that the 2A shouldn't apply to assault weapons because they didn't exist when the 2A was written.
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:55 am to SaintsTiger
Birthright citizenship is also a product of colonial times. It made it easier on the governments of the new world. Only 3 countries of the eastern hemisphere have unrestricted birthright citizenship. Which is Chad, Lesotho and Tanzania. All found in Africa.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-birthright-citizenship
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-birthright-citizenship
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:55 am to Boss
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I’m not sure you know what the hell you are talking about man.
He doesn't, but bless his heart for trying.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:55 am to Rex Feral
quote:USSC will likely cite United States v. Wong Kim Ark as precedent and the whole thing will be sent back to congress who would need a two thirds vote to change the constitution.
He wants SCOTUS to make a final ruling and I don't think they'll overturn his order.
So yeah, it gets overturned.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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Lastly, while it's possible, overturning WKA would be the height of hypocrisy from Thomas, Alito, and Gorsuch.
Oh noz!! Amend that crap.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:55 am to LB84
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Birthright citizenship is also a product of colonial times.
"The Second Amendment was written when 'arms' were muskets"
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:55 am to roadGator
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Next EO. All pregnant women entering the country must have proof of insurance or purchase a $100k a day insurance plan that only covers pregnancy.
Every women at the border will now have Soro United Healthcare underwritten by Progressive.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:55 am to SaintsTiger
I have little problem with the "citizenship" of the child born here. But that should have zero impact for the parents or relatives. They have to go back.
And if they 'abandon' their child here, they forfeit all right to ever become citizens themselves.
So - come here - drop the kid - take the kid back to your home country with you. Congrats - you now have a kid with dual citizenship and the benefit of being able to return to the USA as an adult citizen.
Parents, on the other hand, still have to go thru whatever process was/is in place to become citizens.
And if they 'abandon' their child here, they forfeit all right to ever become citizens themselves.
So - come here - drop the kid - take the kid back to your home country with you. Congrats - you now have a kid with dual citizenship and the benefit of being able to return to the USA as an adult citizen.
Parents, on the other hand, still have to go thru whatever process was/is in place to become citizens.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:55 am to Boss
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If we can do that we have jurisdiction. I’m not sure you know what the hell you are talking about man.
Keep supporting illegals right to be here and thinking they have the same entitlements as you, you are just as much of a problem as them coming into our country.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:56 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:This, kill the anchor part of the equation.
I have little problem with the "citizenship" of the child born here. But that should have zero impact for the parents or relatives. They have to go back.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:57 am to SaintsTiger
The United States shouldn’t be the dumping ground for low iq, uneducated, unskilled third world citizens. That’s what we’ve essentially been since the Mariel boatlift in 1980. Countries send their undesirables here and we take them in and give them tons of handouts at expense of American taxpayers. It has to end. We’ve got 30 to 40 million of them here. It’s unsustainable.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:57 am to SaintsTiger
It would be better if Congress passed a law outlawing biryhright citizenship. That makes it very likely SCOTUS would eventually decide on merits.
With EO it is more likely the court cases end up being decided on a procedural ground as opposed to deciding the issue
With EO it is more likely the court cases end up being decided on a procedural ground as opposed to deciding the issue
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:57 am to momentoftruth87
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Keep supporting illegals right to be here and thinking they have the same entitlements as you,
He said nothing of the sort.
Jurisdiction is the power of a legal system to apply its power to a person.
If a court can try a person for a crime, they have jurisdiction over that person.
If a court does not have jurisdiction over that person, then they cannot try a person for a crime.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:58 am to SaintsTiger
It really isn't about the anchor babies, but the families that then attach themselves to the baby and get citizenship as well.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:58 am to swamptiger99
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"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
Why wouldn't his EO be held up?
The text of the Amendment would seem to support "anchor babies," but in the context of passage, debate and crafting of the 14th Amendment, it is clear that it was intended only to protect the rights of blacks in the post Civil War era. The text has been perverted far beyond its intent.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:58 am to momentoftruth87
My beliefs aren’t at issue here. It’s in the goddamn constitution. You ARE the problem. You pick and choose what suits your beliefs. Instead of going by the law.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:59 am to Auburn1968
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The text has been perverted far beyond its intent.
A court of a relative contemporary time made the crucial ruling, in a textual and historical analysis.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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"The Second Amendment was written when 'arms' were muskets"
Birthright citizenship wasn't put into the Bill of Rights but nice try.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:00 am to Boss
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My beliefs aren’t at issue here. It’s in the goddamn constitution. You ARE the problem. You pick and choose what suits your beliefs. Instead of going by the law.
ILLEGALS SHOULD NOT BE HERE. STOP DEFENDING IT!
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:02 am to LB84
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Birthright citizenship wasn't put into the Bill of Rights but nice try.
Where did I say or imply that it was?
The 14A has the same weight as the 10 Amendments in the Bill of Rights.
You're making the same bad arguments leftists do with the 2A.
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