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re: Why the Tik Tok ban is so dangerous.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 2:46 pm to dgnx6
Posted on 3/15/24 at 2:46 pm to dgnx6
Naive yeah. It was the same with COVID and the vaccine.
Sometimes you have to sit back and realize the people telling you the news and writing the laws don’t like you.
And then extrapolate from there. Worst case is you were right and prepared. Best case is you were wrong and “oh well”
Sometimes you have to sit back and realize the people telling you the news and writing the laws don’t like you.
And then extrapolate from there. Worst case is you were right and prepared. Best case is you were wrong and “oh well”
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Posted on 3/15/24 at 2:48 pm to Buffalobill86
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Cuz it sets the precedent for the United States government to control all of your internet activity which they’ve wanted to do for decades now?
It is very dangerous. No one should be for this.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:00 pm to Bengalbio
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There’s no law against propaganda algorithms, even if they are Chinese.
See Google, YouTube and Meta as proof.
Trump fires up his own social media platform, Elon takes over the Twitter, and suddenly the government wants to start backdooring around the platforms where the algorithms allow dissent and opposing viewpoints.
Trump was bashed for his flip on the TikTok stance, but once context has been added to the argument, it appears he was spot-on. This legislation is terrible and sets a dangerous precedent- par for the course for pretty much everything since November of 2024.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:02 pm to Bunk Moreland
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:03 pm to theunknownknight
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Again…as defined by whom?
I believe that current list is
1) Russia
2) China
3) NoKo
4) Iran
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:12 pm to dgnx6
quote:What am I arguing?
I say we shouldnt send money to ukraine. You say, you are under the control and directive of putin
I am pointing out that neither you, nor David Sacks understand what you are addressing here. I could barely care less about TikTok one way or another, but this bill simply does not seem to carry the "danger" people like Sacks claim. Rand Paul and Elon have insisted potential misuse, but the basis of their claims is not evident.
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:15 pm to Geauxld Finger
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This ban is only happening so tik tok will get sold and the us can harvest your data from tik tok instead of china
The US harvests any data going to or from any device connected to the internet. This is about controlling content. Like TikTok or not this is bad for citizens.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:17 pm to Bunk Moreland
Nice interview with rand Paul on Tucker's podcast today about this. He shines some light on it, if you anyone wants to listen. It's about 18 minutes
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:20 pm to NC_Tigah
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Any “website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application” that is “determined by the President to present a significant threat to the National Security of the United States” is covered if it is CONTROLLED by a foreign ADVERSARY.
Which is determined by the president and AG!!!! Why are some of you so fricking dense? Smh.
Whether right or left, the federal government already has too much power. This bill only allows them more control. Luckily, I don't think it will get past appeals. It's unconstitutional.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:27 pm to The Maj
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Come on man, our benevolent, government overlords are just looking out for our best interests... No way they would ever overstep their bounds and abuse a law like this...
Yes.
Why would anyone be suspicious about our benign overlords in the Potomac Beltway using the threat of foreign interference as a means to advance a pernicious agenda?
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:37 pm to NC_Tigah
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I believe that current list is
1) Russia
2) China
3) NoKo
4) Iran
Let me make this simpler:
70% of all our microchips come from China, Taiwan, and Korea.
An overwhelming majority of our software infrastructure (which almost all of it is only accessible through subscription models now) has ties to china as well as links to the other three countries listed.
So right off the bat, “controlled” by a foreign adversary is WIDE open to interpretation and sets a crazy precedent.
Now imagine creating any site that uses any service or hardware controlled by these countries in any way…
X falls under this category.
Now imagine the owner “allows” information on this platform that could be deemed as aiding the foreign adversary.
Guess what?
This bill opens the door for the government to shut them down.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:43 pm to lake chuck fan
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Whether right or left, the federal government already has too much power.
Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner!
For the 1000th time, the biggest threat to continued Liberty in this nation comes not from Beijing, Moscow or Tehran but from Washington D.C.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 5:37 pm to theunknownknight
quote:Let's make it accurate.
Let me make this simpler:
70% of all our microchips come from China, Taiwan, and Korea.
Okay?
China, despite trade, still accounted for around 5% of US semiconductor imports though this share has been declining.
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 3/15/24 at 7:05 pm to NC_Tigah
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China, despite trade, still accounted for around 5% of US semiconductor imports though this share has been declining.
What I said WAS accurate.
And when China invades Taiwan? Also, you seem oblivious to how software development relating to web hosting, nocode development, ISPs, the moving parts of full stack development on different platforms, open API calls, etc work. You can have an app or site and several countries could have their hands in it
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:11 pm to Buffalobill86
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Ok and that’s how our government uses Facebook and other social media that’s why it’s there and it’s free so I ask again what is the difference
So we should let China do it too? Why did you even ask the question if you just wanted to be adversarial about it
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