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re: Why the big push for Data Centers?

Posted on 7/23/26 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 5:38 pm to
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I just find it weird that this is now being mapped onto the culture war template. MAGA will be pro data center. Could have really imagined it going different, but it’s now been settled.


Trump always shines a spotlight on things/ people that need to be exposed.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
12286 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 5:39 pm to
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Because the question was "why is the US pushing so hard to build data centers," not "tell me all the positives and negatives of building data centers."



Try that sometime.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16602 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 5:41 pm to
Meh, not here its bringing rates down already
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
12286 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 6:30 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16602 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 6:55 pm to
Wrong. It isn't replacing blue collar workers. Digital controls already replace plant workers 30+ years ago Stine is only good for testifying at county, and city meetings for comedic relief
This post was edited on 7/23/26 at 6:57 pm
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
60414 posts
Posted on 7/23/26 at 7:58 pm to
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Try that sometime.


What makes you think I haven't?

The question was why the US was pushing so hard for data centers, that's a totally different topic. I stuck with the topic because I'm capable of having an objective discussion about specific aspects of a topic without feeling the need to make it all about me by trying to derail it into my personal biases.

Perhaps you should try that sometime.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
12286 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:58 am to
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quote:
Try that sometime.


What makes you think I haven't?

The question was why the US was pushing so hard for data centers, that's a totally different topic. I stuck with the topic because I'm capable of having an objective discussion about specific aspects of a topic without feeling the need to make it all about me by trying to derail it into my personal biases.

Perhaps you should try that sometime.


It's not about you BARD but will affect you if they are able to continue to build thousands more data centers. We all need to know what all those NDA's contain that city council members are signing and bypassing their constituents to ram these thru before anyone even knows agreements have been made.

Did you see the above post?

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16602 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 8:57 am to
The retard TDS is strong in the anti Data Center/CCS crowd
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16602 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 9:02 am to
quote:

Trump always shines a spotlight on things/ people that need to be exposed.


That is why he is basically calling the opponents of Data Centers stupid people
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16602 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 9:19 am to
How funny that an AI platform for grant money is....
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Do you drive a Subaru and have 100 cats?
This post was edited on 7/25/26 at 9:20 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91933 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 9:51 am to
The first data center was built in the 40s.



What's happening is an obvious attack on data centers since none of you cared about this shite before.



Like Tariffs. There was a coordinated effort to make you people believe something we already had in place was going to cause another great depression.
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
891 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 10:00 am to
Yep they were building them like crazy before Trump but the news media was silent.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14996 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 10:15 am to
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Yes, data centers host programs and infrastructure that businesses can rent through several distinct service models.



So another step toward, "Big Brother" controls all info.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
14086 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 10:18 am to
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Why the big push for Data Centers?


Speculative bubbles can only survive as long as they can tie more businesses into the capital flow. The data center build out is a way to get the bubble out of the tech sector loop and get hard industry involved. The same thing happened in the dotcom bubble with fiber optics getting built to nowhere.

People joke about China building cities for no one and trains to nowhere but we are plenty capable of the same idiocy within the capital system.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
33660 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 10:19 am to
Data is needed as the tech grows

1. We can have them built in USA and have some control over the information

2. They will be built in Chyna instead and give them all the data about you

Thats pretty much the basics without fluff
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
14086 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Yes, data centers host programs and infrastructure that businesses can rent through several distinct service models.


quote:

So another step toward, "Big Brother" controls all info


Big tech would love nothing more than to turn all tech industry that exists under their level of scale into renters to their tech. That is why they push LLM based code assistants and agents and cloud based hosting. They want every business in the world to pay glorified feudal dues just to operate in technology. It is meant to create a hard barrier of entry into their class.
This post was edited on 7/25/26 at 10:54 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
39644 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 10:34 am to
Is it a data center like Amazon would use to expand their web service or is it a data center that wants to develop AI? It's sold to communities with tax breaks and jobs, jobs, jobs. In reality once completed, they use tons of water and extreme amounts of energy. I would bet energy costs go up for everyone. And those jobs, jobs, jobs, will find out those are constructions jobs and once completed, construction jobs go away and a couple of hundred people that aren't local get those jobs. But, on the AI side, we are in a race with China but they will just steal what we develop as always. It's a conundrum for me.
Posted by RandRules
Member since Mar 2025
615 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 11:07 am to
Not sure, but as long as these data centers keep advancing AI, I don’t really have a problem with it. My truck broke down yesterday and AI pinpointed the problem - a bad electronic throttle body. Showed me how to replace it and everything. I didn’t even know what that part was prior to AI’s diagnosis
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
12286 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 4:14 pm to
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I work for a company that is building multiple data centers. They are throwing money at everyone, myself included.

First thing they told me:

"Never tell anyone what you do. They won't like it, but that's just for now. Soon, they'll hate it, and hate you. We can't provide security for all our employees"


I'm young, so didn't care at the time.

More and more, as I see which clients we are signing to use our data centers, I can tell you that it's not to compete with China. But we spend a large amount with a public affairs company that is pushing our preferred narrative. We pay for posts from influential social media personalities. It's been our best ROI.


How will this adversely affect people to the point you would need security? Please tell us more.
Posted by Robcrzy
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2007
1588 posts
Posted on 7/25/26 at 4:18 pm to
Why the fear for evolving Technology? its inevitable! Why deny and suppress it here?
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