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Why Not Anarchy?
Posted on 10/2/20 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 10/2/20 at 12:43 pm
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Anarchy awaits the conservative who follows his ideals too far. This might sound surprising, considering that the classical anarchist is an enemy of all institutions—the state, of course, but also property (which he calls theft), marriage, religion. The conservative characteristically aspires to save such things. Yet there is a path that leads from conservatism to anarchism narrowly defined. It begins with federalism, cherished by nearly all American conservatives. It follows the thread of federalism further, however, to the point of Anti-Federalism—a preference for something like the loose Articles of Confederation over the more centralizing U.S. Constitution. From there it’s a short leap from radical localism to secessionism. Small is beautiful, isn’t it? Then a micro-state is lovelier than even the humblest federation.
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Posted on 10/2/20 at 12:49 pm to RollTide4Ever
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the state, of course, but also property (which he calls theft)
No. Property exists within anarchy. If you take my stuff I kill you. People learn this and stop taking each other's stuff. Social interaction rules developed way before govt came into existence.
Posted on 10/2/20 at 12:50 pm to RollTide4Ever
I'm an anarchist sympathizer.
But I know that, like Communism, it won't work.
Anarchy is a power vacuum, and that vacuum will always get filled.
But I know that, like Communism, it won't work.
Anarchy is a power vacuum, and that vacuum will always get filled.
Posted on 10/2/20 at 12:53 pm to RollTide4Ever
Historically, and strangely, anarchists have been allied with and then tossed aside by communists.
It’s called anarcho-communism, and their lifespan is about as long as it takes for actual communists to show up.
It’s called anarcho-communism, and their lifespan is about as long as it takes for actual communists to show up.
This post was edited on 10/2/20 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 10/2/20 at 12:55 pm to TrueTiger
Here is a good way to look at anarchy. Ask yourself "Do we really need govt to do that?"
When I was a kid we all knew that govt was necessary to deliver the mail. Today, we realize we don't need them.
Do we really need govt for defense? Mercenary armies have existed.
We'll never have anarchy but we can test the limits of going without govt. In 1776 our govt had a tiny fraction of the power that it has now. If we had a a time machine and immediately reverted to 1776 limits of govt some would describe it as anarchy.
When I was a kid we all knew that govt was necessary to deliver the mail. Today, we realize we don't need them.
Do we really need govt for defense? Mercenary armies have existed.
We'll never have anarchy but we can test the limits of going without govt. In 1776 our govt had a tiny fraction of the power that it has now. If we had a a time machine and immediately reverted to 1776 limits of govt some would describe it as anarchy.
Posted on 10/2/20 at 12:55 pm to Zach
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People learn this and stop taking each other's stuff
Exactly...or they create a government to stop people from taking other peoples stuff.
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govt came into existence.
Posted on 10/2/20 at 12:55 pm to Zach
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Zach
Get that rational thought out of here
Posted on 10/2/20 at 12:56 pm to Zach
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Do we really need govt for defense? Mercenary armies have existed.
Mercenary armies can be bought out. Armies loyal to a country are far less likely to be.
Posted on 10/2/20 at 1:02 pm to TrueTiger
Any examples of this?
Posted on 10/2/20 at 1:04 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
George Washington and co. smashed the Hessians.
Posted on 10/2/20 at 1:06 pm to RollTide4Ever
Something worse than what we have now would immediately fill the power vacuum. Anyone seriously advocating anarchy is a moron with no foresight.
This post was edited on 10/2/20 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 10/2/20 at 1:08 pm to Zach
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Do we really need govt for defense?
Yes
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Mercenary armies have existed.
Who do you think paid the mercenaries?
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We'll never have anarchy but we can test the limits of going without govt.
There will never be “less government”. It only expands.
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we had a a time machine and immediately reverted to 1776 limits of govt some would describe it as anarchy.
And they would be wrong.
Posted on 10/2/20 at 1:10 pm to Indefatigable
It expands and then it collapses. Britain was up to its eyes in debt after the war.
Posted on 10/2/20 at 1:36 pm to TriadTigers
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Exactly...or they create a government to stop people from taking other peoples stuff.
Actually, they create a government to take other people's stuff and give it to other people who voted for the govt. Of course, the govt keeps the largest share of the theft.
Posted on 10/2/20 at 1:39 pm to Indefatigable
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Yes
No.
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Who do you think paid the mercenaries?
The people who wanted to be defended.
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There will never be “less government”. It only expands.
Yes, but in logic this is called 'should/would' fallacy.
IE...'Women should not be allowed to vote.'
A rebuttal of 'that won't happen' is irrelevant. Do you understand?
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And they would be wrong.
They would be right.
Posted on 10/2/20 at 1:45 pm to RollTide4Ever
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George Washington and co. smashed the Hessians.
George Washington and co. also smashed Western Pennsylvanians who didn't want to pay tax on whiskey.
Posted on 10/2/20 at 1:46 pm to RollTide4Ever
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Anarchy awaits the conservative who follows his ideals too far... Small is beautiful, isn’t it? Then a micro-state is lovelier than even the humblest federation.
"Death awaits the health nut who follows his ideals too far... Water is healthy for you isn't it? Then a diet where you constantly drink water must be the healthiest diet."
Silly conservatives, you just threw off your body's PH and died! Lucky I was here to save you from yourself.
God these ****s are insufferable!
This post was edited on 10/2/20 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 10/2/20 at 1:54 pm to RollTide4Ever
We need Militia's by State 
Posted on 10/2/20 at 2:17 pm to RollTide4Ever
Tom Woods fan?
I'm listening to that episode right now.
I'm listening to that episode right now.
Posted on 10/2/20 at 2:38 pm to Zach
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The people who wanted to be defended.
You mean governments. Because private citizens have not commanded mercenary armies in any relevant context for an incredibly long time, and they cannot afford it now.
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They would be right.
No they wouldn’t. The US in 1776 factually was not governed under any type of anarchist principles. Federalism is not anarchy. How stupid modern pseudo-intellectuals feel about the past is not relevant. It wasn’t anarchy, period.
This post was edited on 10/2/20 at 2:40 pm
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