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re: Why Louisiana Stays Poor

Posted on 12/9/18 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by 337Tiger19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Feb 2014
2487 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 1:24 pm to
Looks like there are sources in this video of the results of an academic study. Fake news. We’re poor bc the ghetto
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 1:24 pm to
Liberalism
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

 biggest employers in the state is industry..... so their are pleanty of good paying opportunities for low education achievers.


I'm not going to disagree. But is this a function of location?

New Orleans and Baton Rouge probably have a disproportionate amount of jobs compared the rest of the state. Monroe possibly being an exception.

Other parts of Northern Louisiana and Central LA have a low density of employers.

Note: I realize that mobility is a problem. Most Employers are going to seek local candidates. I've even been told that posting an address nearby an employer is an optimal strategy.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 1:34 pm
Posted by PointsInCase
Member since Dec 2009
698 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 1:55 pm to
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The problem isn’t low IQ. And IQ is not related to education.

The problem is due to stupidity. Both it and the poor education system, as well as big governmental interference in business, and the welfare system are due to inferior culture.

And funding has nothing to causal relationship with poor education. Once basic needs are met, parents and teachers are critical, mostly parents.


IQ is a combination of nature and nurture, but it definitely increases with education. It's a common myth that it doesn't.

The stupidity is due to lack of education and a culture that does not embrace education, knowledge, and progress. Louisiana is very insular, for better and for worse.

Parents aren't educated, which makes them less likely to support the education of their children. It's a continuous cycle that needs to be broken. Lack of education begets more lack of education. Additional funding isn't going to solve everything overnight, but it's a start in the right direction. Better qualified and higher paid teachers, administrators, and higher ups (e.g. school board president) can do wonders for a school district. Whether it's more dollars per student or just educational reform in general, something will need to be done to fix Louisiana's education related woes.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15892 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 2:03 pm to
I suggest you become a teacher at one of New Orleans inner city schools, in order to make a difference. If you don't, they you are intentionally contributing to the problem.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 2:07 pm to
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 also presupposes our unemployed are qualified to do anything other than flip burgers and hang xxxxl size shirts on racks.


I have met people who meet those descriptions. But there are educated individuals who have a hard time finding work.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71311 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 2:24 pm to
We stay poor due to corruption which is enabled by our tax code, licensing regimes, and public bid structure. Our whole tax code is designed to make sure the vast majority of private citizens don’t FEEL like they’re being taxed as much, while shifting the bulk of the burden on private businesses AND providing complex credit regimes that ensure the largest companies pay nothing. We LOSE money on our income tax and inventory taxes. That’s how corrupt we are. You can’t start any business in Louisiana without going through some expensive, time consuming, arbitrary licensure or permitting regime.

The whole system is designed to limit competition to existing large firms while creating endless loopholes to funnel taxpayer money to friends and family and hold critical infrastructure hostage. What enables this is Louisiana’s top-heavy government that consolidates all power, money, and decision-making in the Governor’s office forcing local governments and business to have to come to the capital to beg for scraps. Our masive welfare state and civil service department ensures the majority of the population is completely dependent on the state government for their livelihood. The state government controls exucation funding to keep us all stupid and poor and dependent. We’re basically a 3rd world socialist banana republic.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 2:29 pm
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
18185 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 2:29 pm to
Corporate welfare is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. The state isn’t giving them a damn thing you tard, they’re simply not stealing from them as much. Can we discuss what actual waste is? Because the amount of money we give to the parasitic amongst us is atrocious. We give these parasites money, food, housing, school, healthcare, and much much more. And for what? What does this accomplish? Nothing except for them continuously breeding more parasites. We would be better off taking that money and burning it. Because then it wouldn’t grow into an even larger parasitic entity.
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 2:34 pm to
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Parents aren't educated, which makes them less likely to support the education of their children. It's a continuous cycle that needs to be broken.


How would you feel about removing children from parents at birth and giving them to most wealthy, only solution I can think of, and I am still not sure this would work because I am firmly convinced the problem is mostly genetic.

ETA: Or redistribute our cultural wealth. Not Fair that Louisiana has 1.5 Million units of culture while Vermont has 6,277.

Sterilization of bottom 25% around Middle School is the only other thing I can think of.

This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 2:44 pm
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20752 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 2:43 pm to
Every society in the history of the world has had "the poor" and every society in the future of the world will have "the poor". Some people just suck at making good decisions and at being personally responsible.

The good news is, that in America, the ladder out of poverty is ever changing and "the poor" of yesterday are rarely the same "poor" of today.

No matter how much money government spends on "the poor", as shown in the War on Poverty and the trillions wasted, we will always have "the poor".
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
18185 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:09 pm to
Yes, we have the poor as has every generation before us and every generation after us. We, however, promote our poor to grow regardless of they have the ability to pay for said growth. Our poor can’t pay for their own basic needs, yet they have multiple children. Why? Because the more children they have, the bigger the check.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20752 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 4:53 pm to
Agree. Like most government programs that have noble intentions, they directly cause the opposite of the intended outcome. The War on Poverty has done nothing but create more government dependence.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
18185 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 5:34 pm to
Amen to that, we have created an ever growing monster.
Posted by scottfruget
Member since Nov 2010
3392 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 5:36 pm to
Wish I had the Trump wrong gif....more money is. It the problem with Louisiana’s education system
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

The low IQ population is explained largely by having a poor education system, which is held down by not having proper funding


Brother, all the money in the world wouldn’t help.

It’s culture.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
54255 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 7:36 pm to
Demographics and resource curse
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481820 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 7:49 pm to
that propaganda outlet just dropped some similar story specific to Calcasieu

they claim our property taxes are doubling b/c of one of these exemptions
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481820 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

The low IQ population is explained largely by having a poor education system,

oh boy

quote:

If we continue to blame poor people with no power on our problems, we'll never get anywhere.

those demographic issues are exactly why LA is doomed and has little future

we have too many people with the lower class mentality. they have been used to give political power to people who only use them for the power. those politicains are kleptocrats who have pushed out businesses and corporations by trying to rob them blind.

we can't lure anything other than lower-level industries due to our uneducated and unskilled population. we have to "pay extra" for those even. i'm no fan of this crony capitalism from a purely ideological perspective, but everyone is doing it. if we stop, how will we recruit new businesses to LA?
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 7:58 pm
Posted by PointsInCase
Member since Dec 2009
698 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:04 pm to
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Corporate welfare is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. The state isn’t giving them a damn thing you tard, they’re simply not stealing from them as much. Can we discuss what actual waste is? Because the amount of money we give to the parasitic amongst us is atrocious. We give these parasites money, food, housing, school, healthcare, and much much more. And for what? What does this accomplish? Nothing except for them continuously breeding more parasites. We would be better off taking that money and burning it. Because then it wouldn’t grow into an even larger parasitic entity.
Regardless of how you describe corporate welfare, Louisiana's problem is that it doesn't have enough money to support the basic needs of its population. In a hypothetical world where Louisiana "steals" even less from corporations, it would become even poorer.

Louisiana's population is not educated enough to work in many high paying fields. Part of the reason Google and IBM (and many other companies in many other fields) don't set up shop in Louisiana is because we don't have enough human capital, due in large part to our awful public education system.

Functional, low tax states, such as Texas, don't give freebies to corporations without expecting anything in return...and these states realize how important education is to the modern American dream.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:06 pm to
The best teacher in the world won’t make up for poor homelife, and a parent who doesn't care.

Honestly, you’d probably see more improvement from an increase in two parent households than anything else.
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