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re: Why Judge Boasberg is Wrong
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:55 pm to moneyg
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:55 pm to moneyg
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Stephen Miller didn’t say the determination of citizenship is not subject to judicial review.
Not directly, but his stance includes preclusion of judicial review of that variable.
I literally asked this directly earlier
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The admin has to present evidence to justify this to show their actions conform to the statute.
Again, I'll ask this again: what is the recourse if the admin makes a mistake and improperly or overbroadly applies the law? Just oopsies, nobody can do anything to restrain the illegal actions of the admin?
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I don't believe that to be true.
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What is the recourse if the admin makes a mistake if there is no judicial review?
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Not directly, but his stance includes preclusion of judicial review of that variable.
No it doesn’t. Keep building that straw man though. We both know what happens if you let it go.
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What is the recourse if the admin makes a mistake if there is no judicial review?
What is the recourse if the USSC rules incorrectly on a matter?
Matters of national defense are solely the responsibility of the executive branch. The idea that the judiciary has a role to play is absolutely absurd.
Our constitution is very clear and the final remedy is with Congress if needed. It’s hilarious to see you think the Judiciary has a voice in all Executive decisions.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:07 pm to moneyg
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Matters of national defense are solely the responsibility of the executive branch. The idea that the judiciary has a role to play is absolutely absurd.
Their role is to ensure things like...citizens aren't being taken pursuant to the law. If they have no role, they can't make that determination.
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It’s hilarious to see you think the Judiciary has a voice in all Executive decisions.
I'm more laughing that you are "building that straw man" that I allegedly just built in the same post where you claim that argument is "building a straw man"
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Their role is to ensure things like...citizens aren't being taken pursuant to the law
Squeeze that straw man tight. Don’t let it go.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:22 pm to moneyg
If "the judiciary doesn't have a voice", then citizens dan be put on that plane with no recourse.
If not, then explain what a citizen can do to stop the process, without relying on the judiciary.
Remember, this is about the argument that the court cannot ensure the admin acts within its Constitutional and statutory limits, made by Miller
If not, then explain what a citizen can do to stop the process, without relying on the judiciary.
Remember, this is about the argument that the court cannot ensure the admin acts within its Constitutional and statutory limits, made by Miller
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:27 pm to BozemanTiger
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If "the judiciary doesn't have a voice", then citizens dan be put on that plane with no recourse. If not, then explain what a citizen can do to stop the process, without relying on the judiciary. Remember, this is about the argument that the court cannot ensure the admin acts within its Constitutional and statutory limits, made by Miller
It’s not the courts “job” aka not their business to stick their nose into what is clearly power granted to the executive branch.
Trump should and hopefully will ignore these minor-league judges. They don’t even deserve a response.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The secondary issue (which I would love some edification on from actual experts) is how we are sending them to a foreign jail.
Is the United States responsible for what happens to foreigners in foreign countries?
El Salvador wants these TdA members in prison as well as they have operations there too.
Why would this be something that rises to the level of being allowed or disallowed?
Is judge Boasberg going to hit El Salvador with a TRO as well?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again, I'll ask this again: what is the recourse if the admin makes a mistake and improperly or overbroadly applies the law? Just oopsies, nobody can do anything to restrain the illegal actions of the admin?
The congress gave broad powers to the president that are not subject to judicial review. What is reviewable, I believe, is if the actual procedure is followed.
Of the executive and commander in chief declares that Venezuela sent these illegals here as terrorists that is all that is required to conform to the statute and it is not subject to review.
Congress can change the law and limit the authority to prevent abuse in the future but right now there is no review if the steps are correct
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:05 pm to TBoy
Your takes get dumber by the day. You have the intellect of a child which isn’t surprising given the same 3-4 people defend everything that is contrary to the Trump administration. If I consistently had the same opinions as a middle aged woman or a white guilt ridden Prius driver, I would probably institutionalize myself. It never fails no matter the topic, you somehow manage to outdo yourself. The comical part is you perceive your views as reasonable
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You can't argue that they made a mistake and you're a citizen
More times than not you make such stupid arguments as to cause people to think you are retarded
We already know you are a compulsive narcissistic arse but that statement and the post above are just stupid and you should know that
Nothing about this involves any question of citizenship- PERIOD so just stop being obnoxious for once and learn something from others
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So, the "Constitution" and the "limitations on government" are covered in that post.
Yes, and you said it's not a constitutional issue, after saying it was yesterday.
Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but considering it's you this is 110% appropriate as you're King Ackchually on this sub forum.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again, I'll ask this again: what is the recourse if the admin makes a mistake and improperly or overbroadly applies the law? Just oopsies, nobody can do anything to restrain the illegal actions of the admin?
Impeachment
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Remember, this is about the argument that the court cannot ensure the admin acts within its Constitutional and statutory limits, made by Miller
A federal court has no authority to tell the executive branch what it can or cannot do. All the court can do is to examine a law when a suite is brought before it. If the law in question is in accordance with the Constitution, the law stands, especially if the Supreme Court has already ruled on the law.
In this case, the Supreme Court upheld the 1790s law in "Ludecke vs. United States," in 1948. The US was not at war and a foreign nation was not involved.
This judge had absolutely no grounds to try to stop a flight initiated by the executive branch without probable cause being introduced or by adhering to a different prior ruling by SCOTUS. These are no US citizens involved so there is no basis to enjoin the petition of the ACLU to grant "standing."
This judge is a filthy ROUGE.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:01 pm to Chip82
SFP: 
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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explain what a citizen can do to stop the process, without relying on the judiciary.
Has anyone claimed there was a citizen on board?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:04 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Look how much SFP cares about the gang members. Doesn’t want them to do hard time in El Salvador. Truly pathetic. Him and Hank want em back in America. Just not in his city. Typical behavior
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:05 pm to Bard
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The Alien Enemy Act precludes judicial review of the removal order
Your first sentence is all that needed to be typed. Doesn’t matter what a Federal judge says as it’s as much in their purview as it is that of Debbie the hairdresser.
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