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re: Why isn't Rand Paul getting the Dixie Chicks treatment?
Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:49 pm to Crimson Mafia IIIX
Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:49 pm to Crimson Mafia IIIX
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Correct - not that hard to understand.
thank you.
hopefully one day we can use this as an example in a discussion about the right wing media in general
This post was edited on 8/29/14 at 12:16 am
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You still trying to claim the media is right based? What a joke you are.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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hopefully one day we can use this as an example of how the right wing media in general
Right wing, left wing media they are both guilty of playing to their party. Until there is a news source that only reports the facts without being bias, it will always be like this. Money runs the world, morals do not.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 12:00 am to Draconian Sanctions
I'm your huckleberry
Posted on 8/29/14 at 12:17 am to BBONDS25
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You still trying to claim the media is right based?
Posted on 8/29/14 at 1:35 am to Crimson Mafia IIIX
quote:I agree that the people bashing the Dixie Chicks were completely full of shite...
So you're basically admitting that the people bashing the Dixie Chicks were completely full of shite and just mad that these entertainers didn't share their views?
Correct - not that hard to understand.
However, had Rand Paul or anyone else made the same statements at that time, they would have suffered the same results.
It was timing. At that time, Americans were in the process of being brainwashed into fearing the boogeyman. Any dissent was met harshly.
But we're firmly entrenched over there now, doing our "business," and so criticism over the invasion can now be tolerated since it will have little to no bearing on the overall operation.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 2:35 am to Draconian Sanctions
Your entire premise is silly, country music fans (most of which are conservative 10 years ago) were offended by an entertainers remark. What exactly did Mr. Paul do to offend these same people? Nothing would be the answer. Therefore the answer to your question is never. My turn When will Draconian Sanctions stop acting like a twat every time the herd does not move as he wishes.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 3:28 am to Draconian Sanctions
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When the DC criticized Bush on foreign soil the backlash was swift and immediate. They were called traitors to their country (along with other, sometimes misogynist, names)
Fast forward and Rand Paul now is attacking Obama on foreign soil, but there isn't that same righteous indignation. I guess it's okay as long as those on the right agree with the criticism.
This is your dumbest post ever. We aren't in a fricking hot war at the moment.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 4:58 am to Draconian Sanctions
Because it is over a decade later.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 5:21 am to cave canem
quote:Never. Because he is a twat.
When will Draconian Sanctions stop acting like a twat every time the herd does not move as he wishes.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 5:56 am to Draconian Sanctions
the US was still fairly recently removed from a terrorist attack. everyone was feeling very pro-america even though a growing number of people disliked bush. plus she was a country music singer and her audience included a lot of bush supporters. she severely miscalculated the effect her comments would have.
fast forward to today. we are not recovering from a terrorist attack. americans are actually growing war weary and sick of the 'we're always at war' state of affairs we're in and a growing number of people dislike obama. rand paul is not a country singer. therefore no one gives a shite if he dares criticize obama be it here, england, france, or the fricking moon.
i hope this helps.
fast forward to today. we are not recovering from a terrorist attack. americans are actually growing war weary and sick of the 'we're always at war' state of affairs we're in and a growing number of people dislike obama. rand paul is not a country singer. therefore no one gives a shite if he dares criticize obama be it here, england, france, or the fricking moon.
i hope this helps.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 6:06 am to Draconian Sanctions
Rand Paul is a political opposition leader.
The DCs are a collection of 2s and 3s that sing crappy music and attempt to pry money from the dirty fingernails of their fans.
Little bit different, in my mind. Either way, since when is political opposition unAmerican? I think, in the entertainment business, you always take a certain risk of alienating your fans when you step out of the cocoon of a tour bus and spew stupid political commentary, as if your opinion carries any weight.
Politicians run the same risk. I'd be a terrible politician because I just don't know how to lie that well.
The DCs are a collection of 2s and 3s that sing crappy music and attempt to pry money from the dirty fingernails of their fans.
Little bit different, in my mind. Either way, since when is political opposition unAmerican? I think, in the entertainment business, you always take a certain risk of alienating your fans when you step out of the cocoon of a tour bus and spew stupid political commentary, as if your opinion carries any weight.
Politicians run the same risk. I'd be a terrible politician because I just don't know how to lie that well.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 6:09 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Why would i come unglued? I don't like Obama.
Oh so now you don't like Obama?
Posted on 8/29/14 at 6:18 am to Draconian Sanctions
Apparently the "politics stops at the water's edge" meme died during the Bush years.
This post was edited on 8/29/14 at 6:19 am
Posted on 8/29/14 at 6:21 am to TX Tiger
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was timing. At that time, Americans were in the process of being brainwashed into fearing the boogeyman. Any dissent was met harshly.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 6:24 am to Draconian Sanctions
D * (S;r;v)
Posted on 8/29/14 at 6:26 am to Draconian Sanctions
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When the DC criticized Bush on foreign soil the backlash was swift and immediate.
Did RP make a purely ad hominem attack or did he make a substantive criticism of Bushbama's policies?
Posted on 8/29/14 at 6:28 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Dixie Chicks
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Fast forward ... Rand Paul
You sayin' that Rand Paul is a little loudmouth bitch ?
Posted on 8/29/14 at 6:35 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Why isn't Rand Paul getting the Dixie Chicks treatment?
Well, their comments had more to do with war. It was still 'fresh' and people hadn't grown so war-weary. The 'if you critique the prez or the war, you're against the troops' meme was still in full effect. Fast forward a decade and the toll of blood and treasure has converted immensely the neocon faithful.
Prez Barry hasn't exactly shown astute foreign policy aptitude and criticism is warranted and proffered from the right and left.
FWIW, IMO, the response to the Chicks was ridiculous. The whole 'foreign soil' qualifier is just an insulator to criticism via the 'patriotism' route. Now, as then, you should be able to offer your opinion without the mainstream media choosing a side and vilifying you.
As for the hypocrisy, very little within the warped world of politics falls outside the veil.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 6:49 am to Draconian Sanctions
It was a different time and different circumstances.
Think about World War II. Dropping nuclear bombs on Japan I'm sure had a lot of support. If Obama decided to drop a nuclear bomb on any country right now, it would have no support.
Different times, different circumstances, different mind frames, etc.
As it relates to the Dixie Chicks, the war had more support then. Now, people are tired of the wars. So the circumstance are different and what was said years ago may get a different reaction today.
Think about World War II. Dropping nuclear bombs on Japan I'm sure had a lot of support. If Obama decided to drop a nuclear bomb on any country right now, it would have no support.
Different times, different circumstances, different mind frames, etc.
As it relates to the Dixie Chicks, the war had more support then. Now, people are tired of the wars. So the circumstance are different and what was said years ago may get a different reaction today.
This post was edited on 8/29/14 at 6:52 am
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