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re: Why Is This Very Simple Concept So Difficult for Some Americans to Understand?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:06 am to VoxDawg
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:06 am to VoxDawg
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What you're failing to acknowledge is that due to our current crooked AF election system, it wouldn't have mattered how many republican voters came out on Jan. 5. There was always going to be X+1% votes for those two Democrat frauds. (Looking at you, Dekalb).
I’ll repeat - and I specifically said this in my first post - yeah, election fraud is a real thing, but at this point it’s simply an excuse for an impotent Right.
Look, all this fraud happened in a state controlled by Republicans elected by you. How is that not an unforced error? Voters are accountable for the Governor, Sec of State, etc, they elected them.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:08 am to Lutcher Lad
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Can you imagine the reaction from the left if the sleeping giant is finally awakened?
What is to come may make the so-called "insurrection" on January 6 look like a high school pep rally!
And this is precisely why the MSM and the left have been running to beat the band on branding the George Floyd Memorial Hunger Games "mostly peaceful protests", while they label Jan 6 an "insurrection".
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:10 am to David_DJS
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Voters are accountable for the Governor, Sec of State, etc, they elected them.
And we didn't find out our Governor was impossibly compromised by the CCP until after November 3rd, when he did nothing to fight the fraud. We now know who he is, and it's up to us to act accordingly with the upcoming primary challenge.
Raffensperger's cover is blown. Kemp's cover is blown. Gabe Sterling, Jordan Fuchs - all the Dem operatives masquerading as Republicans have been outed.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:16 am to VoxDawg
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And we didn't find out our Governor was impossibly compromised by the CCP until after November 3rd, when he did nothing to fight the fraud. We now know who he is, and it's up to us to act accordingly with the upcoming primary challenge.
Raffensperger's cover is blown. Kemp's cover is blown. Gabe Sterling, Jordan Fuchs - all the Dem operatives masquerading as Republicans have been outed.
You’re describing problems on the Right. Not impossibilities posed by the Left or permanent government. And that’s my point.
The Left isn’t doing anything that surprises any of us. Pisses us off, sure - but are we surprised they’re lying, power hungry assholes that want to control every aspect of our lives? No, we know what Leftists are. What’s surprising is how compliant to the Left we, the Right, have become. And that’s on us, and the fix won’t be some armed conflict. You’ve got to understand that by how badly the Left is itching for it.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:22 am to VoxDawg
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Why Is This Very Simple Concept So Difficult for Some Americans to Understand?
It's not difficult I have plenty of anarchist friends who believe and act this way.
It's not a real solution to just quit on society and burn it all down. We need some form of government, and we learned from the article of confederation it needed to be strong enough to collect taxes or we cant find defending ourselves
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:25 am to oklahogjr
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It's not a real solution to just quit on society and burn it all down. We need some form of government, and we learned from the article of confederation it needed to be strong enough to collect taxes or we cant find defending ourselves
Only a terminal sufferer of the liberal mind virus would take the tweet in the OP and equate that with a call for anarchy.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:25 am to VoxDawg
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We the people have forgotten that our nation was founded on causing a ruckus to get out from under the thumb of tyranny.
quote:The overall theory that we are weak in not taking matters into our own hands like they did in many conflicts early as a nation, is not even applicable.
I stand by my assertion that while I don't condone violence to achieve political goals (ditto for the destruction of property), the fear component that those in Congress say they felt on Jan. 6 was a very healthy and NECESSARY reminder of what American citizens can do when pushed to the limit.
Some would even say it's what we SHOULD do when faced with a government that actively seeks to limit our freedoms, and I don't know that I would disagree with that principle.
Because of the set up of J6 no one can peaceably protest or petition govt. There is no contacting your rep-for anything because none of them GAF but a select few.
We are massively outgunned and it is stupidity to fight the military (especially as Biden and Lloyd are purging the military with only loyalist leftists) As Biden bragged.... it would take nukes and fighter jets.
At this stage that J6th sealed-we are as powerless as the people of Havana Cuba because our own DOD military is on team Biden hyper-partisan.
The way that our constitution is set up is... when the military are in on a coup with a hijacked CCP DC. The only means of combating the one party rule is the power of the States.
40 something Governors should be facing off the extreme fed govt over reach. It won't truly happen because most are truly establishment and won't rock the boat. AND or they are powerless by nastygram DOJ letters of threats if they so dare challenge DC.
We lost our trust in all govt and voting. The only thing we have left is to join and break away with TX. That takes time and they will have the great reset in place before hand...
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 8:39 am
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:28 am to David_DJS
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You’ve got to understand that by how badly the Left is itching for it.
No one's calling for armed action in the streets. I'm certainly not, and no reasonable adult would divine that from the overarching point in the OP.
The left is a steamroller, perfectly happy to run roughshod over any/everyone who deigns to prevent implementing their agenda, and the GOPe are feckless cuckolds who will wring their hands when the camera is rolling and hold them out for personal gain when they're not.
This is why the only way forward for conservatives is to have more representation like Lauren Boebert and MTG.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:32 am to SidewalkDawg
And that is about to change because there are a lot of people who are "uncomfortable". The water is starting to boil, and people are pissed.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:33 am to Bard
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It goes a little deeper than that though.
The more and longer the governed say yes, the more power the government takes from them. The longer it goes on, the more likely the governed are to assume government has always had that power, it's right for it to have that power and that that power can never be taken away.
Remember, we've always been at war with Eastasia
This tendency describes a plethora of human failures - slavery itself among them.
AND it demonstrates the prescience of most of our founding fathers - as succinctly summarized by John Adams = when asked:
"We have given you a constitution to govern a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate for the governance of any other."
Our 'governing' people have slowly diverted that government from a vehicle for the good of the people at large, towards a mere avenue for them to gain personal wealth and power, to the detriment of the general welfare. And the individuals' attachment to the originating principles that allowed this nation to achieve the pinnacle of human civilization has deteriorated to the point that the whole experiment is now doomed to failure = all based on our own failure to be vigilant in demanding our leaders hold fast to our original purpose.
And no - 'slavery' was NOT one of the original purposes. It was recognized as an inherent evil that had progressed to the point that it could not be eliminated in one strike by a printed document.
What was produced was a document with all the rights of all people stipulated - and with a mechanism for the PEOPLE to mold that in the future by AMENDMENTs as the way forward became clearer.
I still find that to be the ONLY way to address 'existential crises' that seem to pop up every election cycle. IF you want to create government authority to address these 'crises' then draft an AMENDMENT to the constitution that can be CLEARLY and EFFECTIVELY described for a super-majority of the CITIZENs and then you will have sustained the self-ordained purpose of the Constitution = "to form a more perfect union."
The constitution itself never promises to achieve perfection - only a mechanism to approach perfection as the MASS OF CITIZENS view it to be. Certainly this power could never be the result of any momentary mob eking out a +1 'majority' by suspect methodology.
Return to the belief in 'ideals bigger than ourselves' is the only way to maintain our dedication towards achieving a more perfect union.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:35 am to VoxDawg
You aren't doing anything wrong, so frick off lefties. If it must be defined, it is anarchy fighting anarchy. It is sad.
The measures we can take are not cup runnith over in choices; it is down to thinking logically and protect your own family as best as you can and not wasting time on the white knight on a horse at any moment.
If I started a thread with the True the vote link for others to volunteer to run or poll watch it would go to page 3 in 10 seconds.
How about a preppers thread like the other day? Spending time doing things to help ourselves is a good idea, no?
The measures we can take are not cup runnith over in choices; it is down to thinking logically and protect your own family as best as you can and not wasting time on the white knight on a horse at any moment.
If I started a thread with the True the vote link for others to volunteer to run or poll watch it would go to page 3 in 10 seconds.
How about a preppers thread like the other day? Spending time doing things to help ourselves is a good idea, no?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:35 am to VoxDawg
No one's gonna like this but....
Antifa has been going by this concept for the last several years.
Antifa has been going by this concept for the last several years.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:37 am to VoxDawg
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No one's calling for armed action in the streets. I'm certainly not, and no reasonable adult would divine that from the overarching point in the OP.
What exactly are you calling for? Be specific.
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and the GOPe are feckless cuckolds who will wring their hands when the camera is rolling and hold them out for personal gain when they're not.
And my argument is you are describing yourself (and me, and every conservative in America). The people we elect mirroring those characteristics are the symptom. The problem is you’re describing the conservative rank/file.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:38 am to VoxDawg
What do you think is the louder voice-
The folks about to be evicted because the government said they didn’t need to pay rent?
The landlords that haven’t been paid over the last year plus?
Who is going to control the narrative in the US
The folks about to be evicted because the government said they didn’t need to pay rent?
The landlords that haven’t been paid over the last year plus?
Who is going to control the narrative in the US
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:40 am to SidewalkDawg
Only cowards are afraid. Free men know that the battle is at hand. We must all decide who we are going to be.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:41 am to ConfusedHawgInMO
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I don't think they really felt fear.
I think they feared they might lose the power they had attained by their 'coup.' The same fear that an Auswich guard may have felt when the allied forces approached to liberate the Jews.
Fear of being captured and made to atone for your sins/criminality is real. They knew they were not being confronted by an evil mob intent to destroy. These 'rulers' knew the 'mob' had all the factual and moral basis for their outrage. They feared having to face up to citizens for their crimes, not the vengeance of evil invaders.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:44 am to Sneauxghost
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Only cowards are afraid. Free men know that the battle is at hand. We must all decide who we are going to be.
I understand your meaning - but all people have fear - those in the right also have the antidote to that fear = courage and commitment to ideals greater than themselves.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:44 am to pankReb
antifa and BLM along with all the fake FBI militias are quite purposeful in their takeover of America. they are their warriors and money laundering operation, it is why they were all let off the hook and not charged. along with the fake white racist militias.
The militia's in Clintons era were loaded with the same FBI informants and used to usher in the FISA court Patriot Act.
this is a 50 year plan, that has almost reached peak status.
The militia's in Clintons era were loaded with the same FBI informants and used to usher in the FISA court Patriot Act.
this is a 50 year plan, that has almost reached peak status.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 8:46 am
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:46 am to David_DJS
The first thing I believe we need to get back into the habit of doing is contacting our representatives when there's something we're passionate about. They need to know how their constituents feel.
Beginning Nov. 4, I started writing my state House & Senate reps about concerns regarding the election. It turns out that the dude who was my GA House rep was Gov Kemp's majority whip, so attempts to reason with him about election fraud went right out the window, seeing as how the stage was set for Nov. 3 2020 while Kemp was GA Sec. of State, Dominion was brought in, etc. Thankfully, he saw the writing on the wall, and turned tail to go work at GA Tech, even after just winning reelection, 2 months prior.
Thankfully, his successor is a businessman in the private sector and committed to election integrity, and an overall America First agenda.
I believe if we all took the time to make our beliefs/values known, we'd be shocked at how much we learn about the people who are sent to DC under the premise of representing us.
Beginning Nov. 4, I started writing my state House & Senate reps about concerns regarding the election. It turns out that the dude who was my GA House rep was Gov Kemp's majority whip, so attempts to reason with him about election fraud went right out the window, seeing as how the stage was set for Nov. 3 2020 while Kemp was GA Sec. of State, Dominion was brought in, etc. Thankfully, he saw the writing on the wall, and turned tail to go work at GA Tech, even after just winning reelection, 2 months prior.
Thankfully, his successor is a businessman in the private sector and committed to election integrity, and an overall America First agenda.
I believe if we all took the time to make our beliefs/values known, we'd be shocked at how much we learn about the people who are sent to DC under the premise of representing us.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:49 am to VoxDawg
Been there done that for too many years, the reps don't GAF about your interests. even the new ones going in get tainted or ran-out. every one has a price and the CCP know it.
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