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re: Why is Shreveport dying?

Posted on 4/6/19 at 10:52 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 10:52 am to
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It’s very depressing. It’s a very different town then the place I grew up in.


Very. Seems to me the downturn started when the gangs started moving in the early to mid 80's. It was one of the more dangerous places in the USA, no company wanted to locate there. People fled the core and moved to the South of town and to Bossier.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
6477 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 10:53 am to
Why is Shreveport dying?

Because demographics is destiny. And Bossier is right there as an easy move to escape it. When your tax base moves away, you're left with a population requiring services and no way to pay for it. Elect corrupt officials to run it and let them establish their own political dynasties and it's over. Nothing will ever change for the better.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 10:56 am to
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Religion and brain drain


You're such a simpleton.

Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12441 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 10:56 am to
Sounds like what is happening to all cities in the USA except like 15 exceptions.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9974 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 10:56 am to
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Because they keep electing democrats


^^ This is pretty much the answer to any fill in the blank city.

There has never been a city or country that became successful because of socialist policies. The socialist policies always follow after success already happened.

Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 10:57 am to
Pretty much either you are a big city that can draw in new businesses or industries or you are a smaller city that has some already that has been there forever or you have to compete with everybody else to get something new.

If someone needing a location for anything requiring a few thousand people were to look at Shreveport would they want to hire those people locally or would they feel good about attracting them to Shreveport from somewhere else? Remember, Shreveport is competing with everywhere else.

Mostly the biggest cities and smaller ones in areas where they don't have competition for a few hundred miles are drawing in anything new that would be considered attractive. Maybe Shreveport ought to go for chemical plants and put them on the downwind side of town.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 10:59 am to
I had a friend tell me that Shreveport could’ve been what Nashville was back in the 60s/70s but the stringent religious baptist blocked off any types of progress for the music scene.
Don’t know if that’s true or not
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85463 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 10:59 am to
Explain to me this “Magnet Cabal”?

My daughter goes to SH. We are far from wealthy or old money.

She scored in the 99 percentile and got in. No mystery or anything fishy about it.
This post was edited on 4/6/19 at 11:00 am
Posted by Mrmongols7
Member since Apr 2019
10 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 11:02 am to
I appreciate everyone’s opinions. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not an idiot. This is a rhetorical question and I am aware and agree with the majority of the comments. Maybe I should rephrase my question is why is there a disparity between very wealthy (upper middle class) and lower middle. I am racked my brain and tried to understand that. The only thing I can think of is the vast quantities of oil money that have stayed in the area. The east part of town is an incredibly wealthy area. I just wanted peoples opinions if they knew where I am going with this.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4769 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 11:02 am to
Because Alabama hired Nick Saban so Shreveport doesn’t get a big turn out for the Independence Bowl any more.
Posted by Mrmongols7
Member since Apr 2019
10 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 11:05 am to
I guess you haven’t paid attention to all the wealthy people’s children that are around yours. The few who don’t score high on the test are sent to private schools.What did they do with the kids that don’t score high? Give them a shitty education? (Which is what they do) Are they not entitled to a better education? That’s what I mean by cabal. And yes, SH is a very good school.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 11:06 am to
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Because Alabama hired Nick Saban so Shreveport doesn’t get a big turn out for the Independence Bowl any more.



You know, if they dressed up that stadium a little at least on the side facing the freeway it might help. Whenever I drive by it I think "decaying city".
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85463 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 11:07 am to
It’s pretty simple answer.

Shreveport had an oil boom in the early 1900s. Many families in the area became very wealthy. Those families are still around today.

In 1954, a plane crash killed most of Shreveport’s top leadership and was left with a void. The oil boom was also dying off.

The leadership that followed was unable to attract other industry to the area.

Dallas growing into what it is, the volatility of O&G, the white flight to Bossier, etc have all played their respective roles in creating the Shreveport we have today.
This post was edited on 4/6/19 at 11:10 am
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85463 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 11:09 am to
Sure. There are plenty of wealthy families at SH.

Did they get into SH because they are wealthy? Or did they get in because they care about their children and foster good early education and/or have good genetics (high IQ)?

This post was edited on 4/6/19 at 11:11 am
Posted by Mrmongols7
Member since Apr 2019
10 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 11:10 am to
Social Darwinism?
Posted by truthbetold
Member since Aug 2008
7637 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 11:10 am to
The old saying about Oakland applies to Shreveport. There is no "there", there. What is Shreveport's identity? It only identifies with things from elsewhere. The Cowboys, New Orleans, etc. Lack of identity leads to lack of pride leads to lack of care leads to lack of investment.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53786 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 11:15 am to
The demo is becoming older and poorer with young people having less opportunity to build careers and families in Shreveport?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56127 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 11:18 am to
Look at what happened to Monroe. It's just taking you a little longer because you're a bigger city.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85463 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 11:19 am to
That is certainly a problem.

I’ve been here 13 years now. Every single friend I’ve made here, has eventually moved away to another city (Dallas, Houston, OKC, etc.)

We have only stayed due to proximity to family.
This post was edited on 4/6/19 at 11:20 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179860 posts
Posted on 4/6/19 at 11:25 am to
quote:

Shreveport started dying in the mid 70's.


Except it grew nearly 14% in the decade between 70 and 80?

quote:

1940 98,167 28.1%
1950 127,206 29.6%
1960 164,372 29.2%
1970 182,064 10.8%
1980 206,989 13.7%

1990 198,525 -4.1%
2000 200,145 0.8%
2010 199,311 -0.4%
Est. 2017 192,036 [50] -3.7%
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