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re: Why is Ron running in 2024?
Posted on 6/3/23 at 6:17 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/3/23 at 6:17 am to SlowFlowPro
I don’t know about “dumbest,” but way off the mark perhaps? Sure. There’s a glaring absence in his campaign of the meticulous kind of planning and strategizing necessary for that type of narrowly tailored outcome, as well as any obvious signs of cost/benefit analyses having been run through multiple times. This is more of a “now or never, may as well go all in” gameplan.
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 6:22 am to davyjones
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This is more of a “now or never, may as well go all in” gameplan.
Because that's what fate has given him in terms of opportunity. 2024 is it for him.
Running for/as VP just decreases any light opportunity he would have.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 6:26 am to SlowFlowPro
Being Trumps VP just delays Trump backstabbing and throwing Run under the bus.
This way, they can get that over much quicker.
This way, they can get that over much quicker.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 6:31 am to SlowFlowPro
VP now and in this scenario the likely strong favorite to win President in 2028 sure seems better than nothing though.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 6:34 am to davyjones
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VP now and in this scenario the likely strong favorite to win President in 2028 sure seems better than nothing though.
I mean if we're just making up shite that won't happen, then RDS is the likely strong favorite to win President in 2024
Posted on 6/3/23 at 6:37 am to SlowFlowPro
Well the difference is I’m actually running through potential options that I find realistic, whereas you are acting out for no good reason.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 6:42 am to davyjones
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Well the difference is I’m actually running through potential options that I find realistic
The point is that they're in no way realistic.
If Trump wins in 2024, the Republican candidate (no matter who he/she is and what faction they represent) has no shot in 2028.
RDS spending 4 years as Trump VP doesn't even guarantee that he'd be the favorite for the GOP nomination (do you think RDS or Pence has a better shot of beating Trump) or gathering favor with Trumpkinistan (again, see: Pence). He would also get the stench of being Trump's VP nationally, which dooms him perpetually as a national candidate.
Trump winning in 2024 clearly screws over RDS's Presidential aspirations until 2032.
The only scenario up for debate is if Trump loses in 2024, primarily because Trump could theoretically run again in 2028. If that happens, RDS is in the literal same spot as 2024. If it's not Trump, it's one of his MAGA grifters, I imagine Lake from AZ. Again, RDS has the same purity issues with the MAGA crowd (although a weaker opponent in terms of name/recognition).
2024 or bust for RDS.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 6:43 am
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:05 am to SlowFlowPro
I didn’t proceed past the first couple of lines because I’m allergic to purely OMB motivated commentary, critical thinking despite where it leads you be damned. All of your mental energy is devoted to framing a whole response in the light most demeaning to Trump.
The fact of the matter is that there have actually been instances in our history wherein the former VP candidate for President was without question considered the front runner by default, and lo and behold that person won. The current VP and the one prior to were appointed the head of two major areas: Pence: Covid…..Harris: border crisis. Both situations as good a notch on the belt for future Presidential run aspirations IF you leave the impression of having knocked it out of the park with your leadership and coordination of resources. Neither of the aforementioned took advantage of that unmatched opportunity. However according to the tone and tenor of his loyalists, Desantis would’ve knocked it so far outta the park, it has yet to land. An admission that he would come out of a Vice Presidency either no better off or even worse is an admission that he isn’t equipped to seize the opportunity that will be available in some form or fashion(a), not a home run hitter.
The fact of the matter is that there have actually been instances in our history wherein the former VP candidate for President was without question considered the front runner by default, and lo and behold that person won. The current VP and the one prior to were appointed the head of two major areas: Pence: Covid…..Harris: border crisis. Both situations as good a notch on the belt for future Presidential run aspirations IF you leave the impression of having knocked it out of the park with your leadership and coordination of resources. Neither of the aforementioned took advantage of that unmatched opportunity. However according to the tone and tenor of his loyalists, Desantis would’ve knocked it so far outta the park, it has yet to land. An admission that he would come out of a Vice Presidency either no better off or even worse is an admission that he isn’t equipped to seize the opportunity that will be available in some form or fashion(a), not a home run hitter.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:38 am to davyjones
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I didn’t proceed past the first couple of lines because I’m allergic to purely OMB motivated commentary, critical thinking despite where it leads you be damned
Why do you people have a hard time with simple concepts? My statements have nothing to do with my own personal opinion of Trump.
I mean I know why y'all have to internalize so much about Trump as a person/candidate, but perhaps you should examine that.
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The fact of the matter is that there have actually been instances in our history wherein the former VP candidate for President was without question considered the front runner by default,
Sure, and those instances aren't comparable to today for 2 reasons:
1. The polarized political climate (both in terms of Left-Right and within the "Republican" wing)
2. The popularity of the President. Trump, if he wins in 2024, will be the most hated President since the Civil War at least.
Now, again, don't try to take 2 above and turn that into me criticizing Trump. People hate (and I mean hate) Trump.
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The current VP and the one prior to were appointed the head of two major areas: Pence: Covid…..Harris: border crisis. Both situations as good a notch on the belt for future Presidential run aspirations
Oh tell me how those roles did for Pence and Harris in terms of national profile
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However according to the tone and tenor of his loyalists, Desantis would’ve knocked it so far outta the park,
Well no shite. To make an LSU comparison, he'd be Aranda working under an idiot Orgeron.
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An admission that he would come out of a Vice Presidency either no better off or even worse is an admission that he isn’t equipped to seize the opportunity that will be available in some form or fashion(a), not a home run hitter.
No it's an admission of how the population will react to a 2nd Trump term. No other variable matters.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:50 am to Thundercles
Because it's NOT trumps turn.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:10 am to Asusundevil23
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Because the GOPe is colluding with the DOJ to ensure Garland indicts Trump shortly before or after the primaries and has assured Desantis of the nomination. This is the only plausible explanation for Ron believing he has a snowball's chance in..
the part where you have Gope colluding to make the indictment happen before or after primaries is unnecessary.
indictments will happen this August. in Atl. fanni willis. RICO. guliani and Sidney Powell and the Georgia republican committee president and some of his fake electors. trump for election interference.
doj MAL obstruction case will be indicted this summer if at all. those are before Iowa 2024.
its too soon to guess about after primaries. much will depend on what happens in 2023 cases. nearly forgot new york county. the 34 counts of business reporting fraud. that might be over just before primaries start too.
election interference in georgia includes not being allowed to run in georgia.
he can appeal that but the opponent desantis and Christie will point out that not getting on the ballot in Georgia is too much to overcome.
also the doj MAL obstruction case is part of an espionage section. no one guilty of espionage can hold any federal office.
as with Georgia, he may appeal but would convention be oblidged to choose him?
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 11:18 am
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:12 am to Thundercles
Hillary ... is that you?
The popularity polls mean NOTHING. We do NOT elect Presidents by popularity vote.
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The popularity polls mean NOTHING. We do NOT elect Presidents by popularity vote.
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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People hate (and I mean hate) Trump.
he is reviled.
loathed.
despised.
California had 80% of registered voters vote.
New record.
anger is almost as good as fear to motivate the voter.
11 million for biden.
6 million trump.
his 6 is just a couple hundred thousand more than state wide republicans do.
biden got 2 million more than usual dem turnout.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:37 am to CelticDog
I think the more “animated” characters on this site who themselves “revile” Trump massively overestimate the proposition that their opinions on the subject are accurately representative of average voters out there in the real world. I’m sorry but the opposite is true. Normal people will go in the opposite direction without even giving it surface level “research” upon observing the level of bizarre extremist viewpoints based in nothing but hatred. Most people don’t want to have anything to do with that kind of tense negative emotion.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:39 am to Thundercles
Because he wants Biden out.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 12:15 pm to Thundercles
We get it. Everyone should bow down and surrender before the almighty Trump. No one should ever challenge dear leader.
Thst said, why are Trump supporters so scared of Desantis if Trump is so great? I don’t get it.
Thst said, why are Trump supporters so scared of Desantis if Trump is so great? I don’t get it.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 12:30 pm to Thundercles
Posted on 6/3/23 at 12:36 pm to Thundercles
Why?
That's simple he is being paid to run DJT down for 2024.
If DJT doesn't run the let RFK jr run and win rather than DeSantis backed by Ryan, Rove, Bush and world globalists.
Kennedy knows all about the Federal executive branches
That's simple he is being paid to run DJT down for 2024.
If DJT doesn't run the let RFK jr run and win rather than DeSantis backed by Ryan, Rove, Bush and world globalists.
Kennedy knows all about the Federal executive branches
Posted on 6/3/23 at 12:38 pm to LSUvet72
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That's simple he is being paid to run DJT down for 2024.
Just make shite up.
Narrative set.
Heels dug in
Not a cult
Posted on 6/3/23 at 12:40 pm to roadGator
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Because he wants Biden out.
Nah clearly it’s because he’s directly going after Trump.
And if you point out that it looks like his old age is causing paranoia…..then you’re just a leftist because everything everyone does is because of trump and the entire world revolves around him.
ITS HIS TURN!!!
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